Bloods

[philipcooper]

Is it essential that you get your blood done before thinking of going on steroids ?


Also my friend has got me a 12 weeks course of Deca and Sus. Some earlier told me that Deca is not good in first cycle. Is that correct ?

Are there any anti-estrogens i should add to my cycle. ?

My mums two brothers are bald and I have read steroids can cause premature baldness. How effective are Finasteride and Dutesteride at preventing this ?

Thanks in advance

[Big]

not essential, but definitely recommended.

[G-1000]

Its nice to have a base line to work with. So when you get post blood work you can see were your at.

[philipcooper]

And the only way to get blood done is by telling your Gp your going on a steroid cycle ?

[G-1000]

And the only way to get blood done is by telling your Gp your going on a steroid cycle ?

NO tell him you have lack of sex drive and are tired all the time. You also feel your balls fell softer the last few weeks.

[philipcooper]

Will do that then.

Can anyone answer my Deca question. Do you think it is just better starting my first cycle on Sus.

Also would it be better to start taking something 4 weeks before I start my cycle to cut down the side effects?

[_007]

stats?

[philipcooper]

age? 23
height? 5ft 6 inches
weight? 9st 9lbs
body fat%? not sure
years training? Couple of months
pct knowledge? abit have read the important topics.

[Kale]

age? 23
height? 5ft 6 inches
weight? 9st 9lbs
body fat%? not sure
years training? Couple of months
pct knowledge? abit have read the important topics.

There is now way you should be even thinking of doing steroids if you have only been in the gym a couple of months dude, thats just plain dumb

[philipcooper]

What is the reason in having to be in the gym for years before doing steroids ?

Wont they work as good ?

Or

Will the side effect be worse ?

Whats the reasons behind it.

[im83931]

Getting your joints in shape for the added stress is one of the many reasons.

[philipcooper]

Sounds sensible any more ?

How long in the gym would you say before going on steroids ?

I will be going 5 times a week.

When I say I have only been a few months in the gym I went from when I was 16 to 19 then stopped the gym till now on a frequent occasion. But the times in between I took up running would that make a difference to starting them ?

[MFT81]

Because you havent built any sort of foundation.

You can make all the gains in your cycle naturally. Plus anyone that has been training for a "couple of months" eats like shit.

Its a waste of $

Like Swolecat used to say on here

"You cant paint the walls of your house before you build its foundation."

come on man, do the right thing.

[philipcooper]

How long do steroids last before they are out of date. I have paid for them already so I will keep them for a while if possible ?

[Kale]

How long do steroids last before they are out of date. I have paid for them already so I will keep them for a while if possible ?

About three years

[philipcooper]

If I am going the gym 4 - 5 times a week and training hard. When do you think I could start steroids ?

[philipcooper]

Anybody ?

[White Ghost]

i have my blood-work done before, during, and after..... a couple times after

[thecivilizedanimal]

CRIPS


I'D LIKE TO GET MY BLOOD WORK DONE...............

[Phate]

If I am going the gym 4 - 5 times a week and training hard. When do you think I could start steroids ?

train and research on here for a good two years, get knowledgable about what you are going to take, get your diet as close to perfect as you can, after a couple years you should be in good shape to start, i know waiting is hard man, i've been lifting for 4 years and i'm not going to cycle for another 2-3 years as i just turned 19 last month and i want to wait till i'm 21-22 and check to make sure my growth plates and such are closed. i want to so bad, but think about it this way

if you don't have the dedication to wait a couple years to start the right way, what makes you think you have the dedication to eat right and cycle correctly for the rest of your life, remember, this is a life commitment, not just a 12 week commitment,

life is a marathon, slow and steady wins the race

[philipcooper]

Thanks for replies. I am nearly 24 years of age and am very keen to start my cycle. I have already got it. I am reading up for hours a day on steroids and am not going to start till I know the ins and outs. If I get my diet right and know all I can about the steroids I am going to take I think I will be fine.

I have asked about my first cycle which is Sus and Deca and have had alot of mixed views.

Has anybody used this as there first cycle and to what results if so ?

[Phate]

i wouldn't use deca for a first cycle, just run a test only cycle for a first cycle, here are some reasons why

1. Your receptors are fresh so a test first cycle will yield VERY GOOD results as long as your diet, which is the most important part of bodybuilding, and training is on point.

2. if you are afraid of gyno and estrogen related sides, deca is a bad choice for a first cycle as it is a progestrine, let me elaborate a bit on this. Testosterone gets converted to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme, but deca doesn't aromatize to estrogen at all, instead it stimulates progestrone, which can cause the same sides as estrogen, but here's the kicker
Since test stimulates sides via estrogen and deca stimulates sides via progestrone if you get sides which do you treat the gyno, acne, whatever... things like nolva actually can make sides caused by deca worse by making the progesterone receptors more sensitive

as you can see, running deca for a first cycle can be risky especially if you are afraid of gyno

3.Oh yes, there's more, deca is a 19nor and is very supressive so the pct is going to have to be more intensive and thus more expensive