Test Fact Or Myth

[GGallin]

Is it true that you Test levels spike 2 hours after injection? So that would be the ideal time to lift. I have heard that it is and is not true. Any one?

[burnin69]

im pretty sure different esters spike at different times.

[GGallin]

Ok well lets use test E as the example

[gibferno]

Is there a good/bad time of day to inject? I workout in the afternoons.

[dece870717]

Is it true that you Test levels spike 2 hours after injection? So that would be the ideal time to lift. I have heard that it is and is not true. Any one?

Did you hear that from that MTV true life I'm on steroids episode? I doubt that its true, maybe if you used Test suspension or something but i still doubt it.

[burnin69]

it takes 4-6 hours for androgen receptors to migrate back to the cytosol after being activated. Thats why AAS is not instant like most medical injections.

[Kratos]

nah, should be pretty smooth, with suspension you probably get a little spikage.

[burnin69]

test E levels peak at day 2 and diminish over the next week and a half.

[GGallin]

I thought so but ya never know. They say it takes 6 weeks for any effects from test e but I can usually feel them within 2 weeks.

[GGallin]

Did you hear that from that MTV true life I'm on steroids episode? I doubt that its true, maybe if you used Test suspension or something but i still doubt it.

LOL that is one place where I saw that

[LATS60]

Is it true that you Test levels spike 2 hours after injection? So that would be the ideal time to lift. I have heard that it is and is not true. Any one?

T(max) is reached 24-48 hrs after injection, it makes no difference wether it's enan or sust for example.

[nhl1]

I'll give you my personal experience and personal opinion on the matter.

Granted there is absolutely no scientifically based evidence on this but to me it makes sense.

Everytime you inject something into your muscle, you have to go through other layers of the body first. To get to the muscle, you first have to puncture the epidermis and other layers of skin. I'm no biology major, but I'm pretty sure skin is connected directly to the bloodstream. Afterall, pick yourself with a pin or rip off some skin, and I assure you, you shall bleed.

Therefore some amount of the testosterone is getting caught in the bloodstream as soon as you inject via mean of the epidermis. There are also veins and nerves running through every part of your body, and just because the majority of the ester is absorbed by the muscle, it doesnt mean that some of it cant make it to a nerve or vein.

I notice an immediate and temporary increase whenever I inject anything, and it is because of this effect that I believe it happens.

NOT SCIENTIFIC PROOF, JUST A THEORY

[LATS60]

Of course, blood vessels supply the skin, it is our largest organ so there are millions of blood vessels, but how does hitting one of these get testosterone into your bloodstream and whats a nerve got to do with it?

[jstraw428]

It would all depend on your ester,,,,, if you are using suspension, then it would adventagous to work out with in the next 4hrs of injection.....but with the other esters it would be pretty constant for the day....

[Garbanzo Dude]

I'd with cyp or enth the next day.....not sure how fast prop moves

[LATS60]

I'd with cyp or enth the next day.....not sure how fast prop moves

Ah, when i said earlier t(max) is reached 24-48 hrs after injection, i should have said any estrified test.

[Mbuffguy]

Did you hear that from that MTV true life I'm on steroids episode? I doubt that its true, maybe if you used Test suspension or something but i still doubt it.

its funny they picked 3 lil bitches who do everything wrong for that episode

[Shurik]

I dont know if it will make sense for you guys but whenever i would inject test c I would always get this high feeling and really hypered up about 10 minutes after injection, my gf would always ask what the hell are you on? lol
I dont know maybe it was all in my head but i dont think so.

[Kale]

From Another Board

Active Half-life of Steroids and Esters


An important consideration when planning a steroid cycle, in particular the timing of dosing to be administered, is the active half-life of the drug being employed. The half-life may be defined as the time (t) the level is half of the starting level of a given compound; at time 2t, the level is a quarter of the starting level, and at time 3t, the level is an eighth of the starting level, and so on.

This information is vital in the timing of the dosing when attempting to achieve a more stable blood concentration, which leads to greater overall results and maintenance of gains. Some fluctuations of concentration levels are acceptable, and are also mostly unavoidable, but should be kept to a minimum.

This article covers the half-life's of the most commonly used steroids, esters and ancillary compounds.

Oral steroids
Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours

Depot steroids

Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day

*Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.

Steroid esters
Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Ancillaries
Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours

A practical example is if one was to inject 100mg of testosterone propionate and allow blood levels to peak. In 4.5 days time (half-life duration from the above tables) and providing no other injections had taken place, the level would be reduced to 50mg. Again, a further 4.5 days down the line and levels would have dropped to 25mg, and the value keeps halving every 4.5 days.

[burnin69]

^^^ great post

[GGallin]

Wow I knew none of that almost