year round cycle?

[jnewton86]

ive done my research, gonna do a cycle about a month or two from now, or a year round cycle you could say. My source is very reputable with experience and titles to prove his knowledge. after telling him my situation with my pituitary gland and the meds im on, he recommended doing a year round cycle of test and d-bol, saying thats what he did. until he mentioned it, i never heard of a year round cycle, any opinions on this? i trust him, just curious

[BIG-N-Brazil]

Stats? What are you trying to accomplish,,,competitor, shows etc...

[jnewton86]

thats right, here ya go-

height: 5'9"
weight: 165
BF: 12%

goal: build mass, first cycle, will be competing eventually. will get as big as possible

[BIG-N-Brazil]

I will let some of the vets give you advice but a year round first cycle is probably not gonna be your best bet....

[Big]

age?
he has "titles to prove his knowledge" but recommends dbol for a year? lmfao.

[jnewton86]

understandable, i believe his reasoning is due to my condition, i dont produce test, hgh, and cortisol naturally. I already take 4 pumps of andro gel every day as well as levothyroxine and cortisol. also inject hgh every night.

[jnewton86]

21-

my apologies, we spoke briefly one time, he didnt go over the span of time for the d-bol. im unable to contact him directly for reasons im sure u understand. when i have questions as far as the cycle goes, it takes awhile to get answers back, i go through a third party

[Big]

dude, please don't take any more advice from this guy. if you have low levels you should be going through a doc, not some guy who is obviously clueless base on what this thread has revealed.

[jnewton86]

training for 4 years

[Big]

How much HGH are you using? Why would you inject it at night?

[jnewton86]

what the doc told me to do. its not an intramuscular injection, its subcutaneous, i inject
30cc using an insulin needle. i have hypopituitaryism. my pituitary gland doesnt function proprerly due to an accident

[Big]

30cc? a day? wtf?

[bodybuilder1107]

wow whats up with that bro? doc prescribed?!

[jnewton86]

i dont know man, thats what my doctors prescribed me for my condition, as well as my cortisol levels being controlled

[BIG-N-Brazil]

I don't think u mean 30cc......

[Big]

dude, an insulin syringe is either .5cc or 1cc depending on which one you get. unless you're re-filling the syringe 30 times a day, you're not shooting 30cc.

[jnewton86]

31 gauge needle
says 1/2 cc on the packaging
30 units

[jnewton86]

my bad

[BIG-N-Brazil]

Big difference......

[T_Own]

30cc wow..
dbol for a year wow..

[jnewton86]

is there a member anyone can recommend i speak with? due to my condition, most people dont have much to say as far as cycle's go. my doc isnt fond of anabolics

[Big]

seriously bro, at your age and with the conditions you described you need to be under a doctor's care, not some guy on the internet. if your present doc isn't the right one, get a different doc. keep looking until you find one that satisfies you.

[jnewton86]

ive had the conditions since the accident, 14 years old. i wont be growing anymore as my growth was stopped and my test is constant. thing is, have trouble finding a doc that will help me out. however i see your perspective, thanx for the help

[lex57]

you have no business doing this, but hey how can you argue with a third party source telling you how to cycle. 30 ml hgh injections....year round dbol...... i am just glad you did your research because this could have been bad if you didnt.

[jnewton86]

sorry you got the wrong impression lex57, i use a third party to contact my source. and the d-bol we didnt cover for the span of time. i didnt say 30 ml, its 30 units, as prescribed

[jnewton86]

no offense either, but i dont appreciate you telling me i have no business doing this, considering bodybuilding is my life. not a hobby

[BIG-N-Brazil]

Actually u did say 30ml but listen to what these guys have to say. Doctors seem like the best approach for you...

[jnewton86]

thats what ive gathered, thanx

[T_Own]

no offense either, but i dont appreciate you telling me i have no business doing this, considering bodybuilding is my life. not a hobby

well go ahead and try a year long cycle of dbol and see if you still have a life. there's a difference between being conservative and stupid and that cycle is much more the latter

[jnewton86]

correction, the test would be year long, low dosage, and the d-bol wasnt covered yet for the length of time to be taken, not tryin to be smart

[jnewton86]

ill stick with the vets, the doc is my only option

thanx

[jgonzalez]

totally lost

[T_Own]

its the best choice. unless you're fine with hrt from now on, a year of test isn't the way to go

[lex57]

no offense either, but i dont appreciate you telling me i have no business doing this, considering bodybuilding is my life. not a hobby

the reason i say you have no business doing this (and you dont)is because of the levothyroxine. i am not getting into detail now, but research it and tell me what you come up with. and i will tell you tommorow when i have time.

[jnewton86]

very interested. did some research and found some bad side effects if taken with certain substances. also saw overdose it quite deadly. my daily pill is 75mcg, on the lower side i believe. still lookin for more facts

[jnewton86]

found this-

DRUG INTERACTIONS: Before using this medication, tell your doctor or pharmacist of all prescription and nonprescription drugs you may use, especially of: warfarin, digoxin, estrogen products (including estrogen-containing birth control pills), diabetes medicines (e.g., insulin, glipizide, rosiglitazone), amiodarone, iodide (including radiographic contrast agents containing iodine), lithium, anti-thyroid agents (e.g., methimazole, propylthiouracil), androgens/anabolic steroids,

[jnewton86]

do you know what would happen if i took test and d-bol along with my levo?

[JiGGaMaN]

understandable, i believe his reasoning is due to my condition, i dont produce test, hgh, and cortisol naturally. I already take 4 pumps of andro gel every day as well as levothyroxine and cortisol. also inject hgh every night.

You might as well not do any dbol and skip the cortisol. i think taking cortisol is probably quite counterproductive. Shame.

[lex57]

found this-

DRUG INTERACTIONS: Before using this medication, tell your doctor or pharmacist of all prescription and nonprescription drugs you may use, especially of: warfarin, digoxin, estrogen products (including estrogen-containing birth control pills), diabetes medicines (e.g., insulin, glipizide, rosiglitazone), amiodarone, iodide (including radiographic contrast agents containing iodine), lithium, anti-thyroid agents (e.g., methimazole, propylthiouracil), androgens/anabolic steroids,

wow someone actually listened to me.... its amazing. i am glad you found this on your own and i didnt have to explain it to you. pm me if you want a detailed explanation because it would be quite lengthy. but one of the main things is that levothyroxine is 99% protein bound thus could have serious life threatening drug-drug interactions, even with simple otc meds. but anyway thats why i said you had no business doing aas. thats why it has such a warning to tell you doc about ALL meds you are using with this drug.

[lex57]

You might as well not do any dbol and skip the cortisol. i think taking cortisol is probably quite counterproductive. Shame.

do you really mean this? why would he skip the cortisol if he has a hypopituitary condition?