winny for use in a contact sport?

[oneshot]

i was planning my next cycle, which i will start next winter, and probably gonna start trying to get a hold of the compounds i need for it asap before it gets anymore difficult than it already is. i was wanting to run a shorter cycle but i would like it to last the duration of rugby season to avoid going on pct at the end of the season when i need to peak. i am really considering about a 16 weeker of test/deca/eq. deca for mass and strength, eq solely for endurance, and test for obvious reasons. i was wanting to add something else in during the last 6 weeks or so of the cycle when the gains start to slow down and was considering winny. my only concern is the joint pain i have heard horror stories about. a little joint pain would be tolerable but it would be completely out of the question if it would make me more prone to injury as i already have had a bit of knee problems and could not afford to get injured during the most important part of the season. any info on winny for use in this type of sport or any other suggestions for compounds i could run instead that would give a bit of extra strength and aggression during those last few weeks of the season would be greatly appreciated.

[redz]

I played hockey this year on test and winny. My performance was drastically improved and I had no ill effects from any bumps/checks but I was playing at about 255lbs.

[oneshot]

thats certainly good to hear. hopefully i will be close to that weight by the end of it.

[facile]

tren is great for aggression but kills your cardio endurance, so it's out.

I have had issues with Winny and joint pain, what about mast, since it doesn't aromatize and some believe it hinders other compounds ability to aromatize, so long into a cycle those other compounds may be more effective???? Don't know for sure but just a suggestion.

[legobricks]

Test, deca, and EQ and you want to throw in another compound towards the end? Why?

[chuckt12345]

why eq and winny? If you run deca with winny you shouldnt have any joint pains

[ShadetreeJones]

Test, deca, and EQ and you want to throw in another compound towards the end? Why?

My next cycle. I cannot wait.

[afro jones]

I ran winnie and played rugby bro! I was never in shape like rugby guys, but hell i could go forever! (I played wing and outside center). I've taken test and tren got big, strong, and slow. I never got joint pains, but everyone's different. Just thinking of winnie makes me wanna run it again.

[oneshot]

Test, deca, and EQ and you want to throw in another compound towards the end? Why?

mainly because i expect the gains will slow down drastically around weeks 10 or so and thats right about when the season picks up and gets pretty competitive. just looking for a little something extra for a bit of strength and aggression. I considered halo but would rather opt for something a little cheaper. i guess im still considering masteron but have heard about many sub-par results aside from bb contest prep.

[oneshot]

why eq and winny? If you run deca with winny you shouldnt have any joint pains

i was also curious as to whether the deca could possible counterbalance the winny as far as the joints problems go.

[whiskey15]

i was also curious as to whether the deca could possible counterbalance the winny as far as the joints problems go.

I would say yes. Throw a low dose of test in there. You will not get slower from using a low dose of test and maintaining your cardio.

[legobricks]

Your relying on too many compounds to gain muscle. Your diet should dictate your gains, not the amount of AAS.

IMO, dump the EQ as its weak and useless anyhow. My RBC increases just on test and i can go forever(lifting and sports-wise), EQ really just increased BP which sucked....also hurt my joints a bit. If you can keep water retention down along with a solid clean diet run the test deca and throw in Winny towards the end if you so desire. Winny really will dry your joints which may be a burden for the season(althought the deca may counteract that).

As far as gains slowing down, most people usually end a cycle when gains begin to slow which is different for everyone. Keep your diet up tho as when you grow you need to keep increasing your caloric intake to keep growing.

[jamyjamjr]

i would seriously reconsider winnie for a rough contact sport like rugby... winnie drys out your joints and you can get seriously injured.. your best bet would be var

[oneshot]

IMO, dump the EQ as its weak and useless anyhow. My RBC increases just on test and i can go forever(lifting and sports-wise), EQ really just increased BP which sucked....also hurt my joints a bit. If you can keep water retention down along with a solid clean diet run the test deca and throw in Winny towards the end if you so desire. Winny really will dry your joints which may be a burden for the season(althought the deca may counteract that).

As far as gains slowing down, most people usually end a cycle when gains begin to slow which is different for everyone. Keep your diet up tho as when you grow you need to keep increasing your caloric intake to keep growing.

thanks for the replies guys. i would generally stop the cycle once gains start to slow down drastically but the season is almost 4 months long and i could not afford to go on pct during the most intense part of the season. my diet is always clean and i planned on eating like a madman during season (eq will help with that) to keep up with the immense amount of conditioning i will be doing. keep in mind that a rugby match is 80 minutes of gameplay with nonstop movement, usually playing multiple games a day, thus my desire for something that can significantly increase endurance. ive never heard of eq causing joint problems though so i would like more info on that as well. i considered var instead of the winny but if i wanted to spend that much money i would rather go with halo for the strength and aggression. any more info or experiences with the possibility of deca countering the winny would be greatly appreciated.

[kaju]

winny depot and winny tabs are bigg difference than you think. are you talking depot?

[Teras]

I only did winny once at 50mg but after 4-5 weeks I stopped cause I kept having that feeling like I was going to pull a hamstring...