what is the best cycle for mass/size?

[wackod2]

Hello I am asking for a later on cycle as i have just about finished test 250,
2 ml a week and it worked out quite well but I am still curious what is better
for mass/size and what dose and if its stronger then the test 250 and or what its compared to and if i need to stack it with something else and is there any
increased side effects compared to test 250 thanks a bunch

also if you have any legal stacks you want to mention and what they compared to let me know

here is one i had in mind

methyl 1-d = 2/day
I-gh-1= 2/day
Masterdrol V2 XPLO = 2/day
pSARM= 2/day
milk thistle

[paulzane]

Read read read!!!

[paulzane]

Nothing pisses people off here more than noobs asking a general what is the best stack type questions and they give no information about themselves or their previous experience. ...... Hang around the board and read as much asyou can take in!!

As I am in a good mood Kale ( one of the many respected members here ) has taken the time and made the effort to collate a lot of information for noobs and everyone in this link:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

[paulzane]

Spend a week or a month reading that and then come back with a question!

[john1181]

i think the best mass cyce would be, dbol 30mg/day, test enanthate 750mg/w, deca 600mg/week (test enanthae and deca 10 weeks, dbol 4-5weeks tops) along with 100mg/d provironand 20mg/day nolvadex through out the cycle.. you would def need a really good pct...also i wouldnt do this if i was under 21.. or if your diet and workout arent on a very good level..thats my pinion on a very good mass/strength builder..again thas just me, my personal opinion, not what you should consider..

[Johny-too-small]

^^Sorry bro. Bad advice. Nolva throughout a deca cycle? No.

Also, why would you tell someone what drugs to run without knowing who they are (stats)? That is not smart!!

[Johny-too-small]

Spend a week or a month reading that and then come back with a question!

Yes!! And dont forget the diet forum should be the very first place to master! Good luck, bro!

[one8nine]

i think the best mass cyce would be, dbol 30mg/day, test enanthate 750mg/w, deca 600mg/week (test enanthae and deca 10 weeks, dbol 4-5weeks tops) along with 100mg/d provironand 20mg/day nolvadex through out the cycle.. you would def need a really good pct...also i wouldnt do this if i was under 21.. or if your diet and workout arent on a very good level..thats my pinion on a very good mass/strength builder..again thas just me, my personal opinion, not what you should consider..

no offence dude but you still have ages to learn before giving advice. nolva and deca dont mix especially at that dosage

[dece870717]

Most lean mass/size or most mass with a bunch of water that will go away when you come off? A Test/Deca/Dbol or Drol cycle will put the most amount of "mass" on you but Test/Tren/Winstrol would put the most amount of lean mass.

[john1181]

lmao...non taken bro! but......."thats my pinion on a very good mass/strength builder..again thas just me, my personal opinion, not what you should consider.." comon fellaz read carefuly..lol..btw i have used nolv on deca cycles..what happened to me that i dnt realize? pease tell because i cant remember somehing..deca cnverts into progesterone i know that...so what were my sides..arimidex or femara were way to expensive for me then..with all that test and dbol i had to run something..another thing...doesnt each cycleand its dosages have a little tag next to it saying or guessing its results? so even if he is 180 and 6'0 or 175 at 6'0 he would gain the same amount of muscle with proper nutrition and weightlifting...what do his stats have to do with anything? age maybe yea idkk you guys know more but ive experimented on myself (yes very stupid idea) and i have seen that my stats didnt have nthing to do with nothing so please explain guys thats why i'm here to learn from the guys who know the facts...the only side effects i was lucky to have were almond size testes which came back after pct and some acme on my back..gain tats me i'm not saying that those are gonna be anyones sideefects so lets not comment o that..
btw one8nine i took your advice n the viles..i got a 30ml botte from te farmacy supply store..also im doing 100mg/day and not taking anti est.

[john1181]

i would thnk tet prop-tren-deca would be better cause of the lack of joint pain..deca would elp the tendons with all te strength gain fom the testtren..not someing ive eperianced..jut something i'm guessng from wat i read on the forum

[john1181]

o another thing bro...he just finished up a test cycle i'm prtty sure he age qualified! but thagain if yogo back ad read caruly you will see it asnt advce it wasmy opinion

[inky-e]

Personally, I've had great success with test and deca cycles. Last one I put on 21lb's, so far I've kept about 11-12lb's of that.

[wackod2]

i have a cycle lined up i was simply asking so dont call me a noob

methyl 1-d = 2/day
I-gh-1= 2/day
Masterdrol V2 XPLO = 2/day
pSARM= 2/day
milk thistle

thats my legal stack i had in mind and was looking for opinions

[new_user]

^^Sorry bro. Bad advice. Nolva throughout a deca cycle? No.
!!

why not?

[Big]

nolva used in conjunction with a 19nor increases the chances of gyno

[john1181]

how can that be bro? i swear i have doe at least 7 cycles with 600deca along with test e and dbol in a couple..i always ran proviron..you think its the proviron that saved me from gyno? plese explain how nolv increases gyno in conjunction with deca..i have not a trace of gyno..i sometimes would run a cycle after another cycle because i was young and stupid.so anyway maybe there is something else ausing the gyno from the nolv and 19nor...if the estrogen receptors(or hatever they are called) are blocked via nolvadex their are progesterone receptors where the progesterone builds up causing gyno? i dont get it!! the progesterone cancels out the nolva??

[new_user]

how can that be bro? i swear i have doe at least 7 cycles with 600deca along with test e and dbol in a couple..i always ran proviron..you think its the proviron that saved me from gyno? plese explain how nolv increases gyno in conjunction with deca..i have not a trace of gyno..i sometimes would run a cycle after another cycle because i was young and stupid.so anyway maybe there is something else ausing the gyno from the nolv and 19nor...if the estrogen receptors(or hatever they are called) are blocked via nolvadex their are progesterone receptors where the progesterone builds up causing gyno? i dont get it!! the progesterone cancels out the nolva??

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[wackod2]

any have a comment on my cycle i was thinking about?

i was trying to go with a legal cycle that i can get on my hands real easy

[erny23]

For mass and size I'd take Dianabol and Anadrol together, assuming you don't care about water retention.

You can get legal dianabol and anadrol online from a retailer called CrazyBulk, but I don't know how legit it is/if it works.

Source: Best Steroids for Size/Mass | AreTheyOnSteroids.com

[The Deadlifting Dog]

For mass and size I'd take Dianabol and Anadrol together, assuming you don't care about water retention. You can get legal dianabol and anadrol online from a retailer called CrazyBulk, but I don't know how legit it is/if it works. Source: Best Steroids for Size/Mass | AreTheyOnSteroids.com

Please stop pushing garbage.