cousins cycle

[boxer08]

My cousin is 9 weeks into his 14 week cycle. He is using 1500mg of sust and he used dianabol to kick start it. for 4 weeks. He has only put on around 14 pounds. He didnt start using nolva untill, 8 weeks in because he said his nipples were felling a bit weired. I would say he should be experiencing more gains on a dose like that. The cycle looks like this -

Week 1-4 50mg dianabol daily
Week 1-10 1500mg sust week
Week 10-14 500mg sust week
Week 10-14 50mg winstrol daily

[boxer08]

Stats at the moment are-

Age - 18
Weight - 206 pounds
Height - 5'10
Bf - 13%
cycles - 5 including this one

[lex57]

wow so he started juicing at 16?

[boxer08]

At 15 he ran a dianabol cycle which was his first.

[lex57]

who knows could be fake gear, could be diet........but my concern is at 5'10" 206 13% bf with 4 cycles under his belt.........that could be done naturally with no problems with proper diet and training.

[inky-e]

Thats alot of sust for anyone to take, but for an 18yr old, its just ridiculous. I think your "cousin" needs to get off the juice and do a good PCT. Its probably just not working for him anymore. I really do feel for him though, he may have really fukked himself by doing all this.

[boxer08]

I aslo think that the gains could of been done naturally. I think he was about 12 stone before he ever touched steroids. He did start off as a ectomorph. I would say his diet is not the best and could be altered a lot.

[boxer08]

He did run sust last year for 5 months but then done a good pct and took 6 months off. After this cycle he is staying off till next year as he is entering the british. He aint really had any side effects from all the cycles and continued to grow in height.

[santacruz05]

5 cycles at the age of 18????? This kid needs better roll models and education on steroids. His body is still developing, his hormone levels are very high. He should be all natural. not to mention the side effects of doing juice so young, during the physical development into adulthood.

The responsibility of doing steroids properly is large, and young people may not always be able to understand the future potential negative physical effects, social effects, and especially hormonal effects. Why is he in such a rush to be running so many cycles so young?

[boxer08]

For the first 3 that he run he did it because he had spent over £1000 pound on supplements and was eating good but wernt growing. As for the last one and this one he was suppose to enter comps but did not in the end and is going to wait till next year.

[santacruz05]

IMO he should relax for a few years and go natural. He is going to get addicted to steroids and the "easy-gains" they give him. Every cycle he does is going to be less affective as his body adapts to these levels of test. He will also find it mentally difficult to motivate himself to workout when off-cycles.

I have a friend who is addicted to juice, he has been doing like 4 cycles a year for the past 5 years since he was 17. His attitude IMO is ****ed, this guy has ****ed up his test levels permanently.

Be a good big cus and try and tapper him off for a year or something.

[boxer08]

He wont listen about coming off like i said after this one he aint going back on till next year which will be for a comp. His attitude is fine, well towards me it is anyway. I have, probely more than 20 times told him to go to the doctors and get some bloodwork but he just wont as he never has any problems cosidering after most of the cycles he has done a really bad pct.

[santacruz05]

Well than you've done all you can lol.

Anyways. One possible answer to why the gear is not very affective is because his body is not reacting properly to the chemicals. This could be due to inconsistent blood test levels, or his body could be adapting to having high test levels constantly, and therefor is not in a hyper-growth state like it should be during cycles.

It's hard to say bro, 1500mg/ week is quite a lot for his age. I think only a doctor given all the specific information would be able to make a good guess as to the reason.

But seriously though, does he think he can treat his body like a science project and expect nothing odd to happen?

[boxer08]

He will not go to the doctors untill something happens. He did go once but a different doctor was there as the normal one had gone on holidays and the doctor said to him if you can get a hard on then your okay and that was it. Ive told him to go back when the normal doc is there but he just will not. As for the gains, his diet aint the best and i will try and get some pics of the sust.

[WARMachine]

WTF? damn dude, some type of intervention is needed...

Good luck bro, just try and talk some sense into the kid... 18 yrs old and already 4 cycles??
Wow...

[boxer08]

I will see him later so i'll have another chat with him. I'm sure he said he's booking his holiday off work around the same time his cycle finishes so i'll try and get him to have some blood done then. Test will be intresting.

[testa dura]

"cousin"

[boxer08]

Yes my cousin.

[PT]

18 is way to young to be doing any steroids let alone 1500mgs of test. if he isnt growing its because of his diet. hopefully he is planning on competing at a professional level, if not he just damaged his body for nothing

[boxer08]

Powerlifting comps he is entering.