better gains on test prop only, or var & tbol cycle

[daniel_3855]

what would be best for gains and cutting?

oral cycle of var and tbol.

or test prop only cycle.

i only want to do 1 cycle just for a little pump.

oh and what does pct mean

[daem]

Testosterone propionate hands down.

If you had the others on hand, they would stack well with the test.

Do a search on PCT...It's the protocol used to transition from a cycle and return your hormones as close to normal levels as possible using a whole variety of methods.

[gymfreak1978]

i would add researchadrol to ur cycle !!!

[one8nine]

stacking 2 orals is bad
doing cycles without any test is bad
test prop is good alone, the best single drug available
test prop/tbol cycle would be okay
test prop/var cycle would be great
how long and what dosages?

i say
1-8: test p 50mg every day
1-6: var 50mg ed
9-12: pct (post cycle therapy)

the pct i always recomend is 4 weeks of nolvadex 20mg and proviron 50mg

do some research on your drugs
test prop
anavar
nolvadex
proviron

also, youll want one of these on hand with your test incase you start side effects. these are called aromatize inhibitors
letrozole
aromasin
arimidex

click here for a list to read about them

[r0bi25]

Researchadrol = best drug, but this post ^^^^^^ is pretty sweet for the beginner...good work and thx

[muhammad1185]

i agree with one8nine

[Teras]

stacking 2 orals is bad
doing cycles without any test is bad
test prop is good alone, the best single drug available
test prop/tbol cycle would be okay
test prop/var cycle would be great
how long and what dosages?

i say
1-8: test p 50mg every day
1-6: var 50mg ed
9-12: pct (post cycle therapy)

the pct i always recomend is 4 weeks of nolvadex 20mg and proviron 50mg

do some research on your drugs
test prop
anavar
nolvadex
proviron

also, youll want one of these on hand with your test incase you start side effects. these are called aromatize inhibitors
letrozole
aromasin
arimidex

click here for a list to read about them

Great advice. Actually I've run prop and var at about these doses (a little more var) as my first cycle and it was a sweet one.

[daniel_3855]

hi i cant get hold of the var or tbol now so its got to me test prop, i also have loads of clen should i add that in cycle or use pct with proviron? will proviron keep the water off?

what dose should i take. thanks guys.

[graeme87]

You won't get much if any water with that cycle and nolova and proviron will be enough to keep the water off.

You can run the clen during pct if you like, depends what your goals are.

[Dog-Slime]

Actually the var/tbol cycle is a VERY good stack for body recomp. I believe its not to hard on the liver due to one (var?) being mostly metabolized in the kidneys or some crap like that. Its called a Ross Cocktail and a lot of guys love it, especially when trying to gain LBM while reducing bf. Run a search for Ross Cocktail for better info on the stack.