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    Guy on Bus Decapitated!!!!

    Did anyone see the story from Canada where a 22yo man was stabbed up to 50 times in the chest before being decapitated and disemboweled by the guy sitting next to him.
    Heres the story........................
    Canada is coming to terms with one of the worst murders in its history as police seek to explain why a young man was decapitated by his neighbour on a Greyhound bus.

    The man suspected of the gruesome attack on Tim McLean, a 22-year-old fairground worker, was charged with murder today.

    Mr McLean was travelling home to Winnepeg when he was stabbed up to 50 times by the man sitting next to him.

    Vince Weiguang Li, 40, was arrested on suspicion of murder on Thursday morning after a stand-off lasting several hours. He remained in police custody today.

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    Witnesses say they heard no conversation between Mr McLean and his attacker before a “blood curdling” scream was let out. It appears to have been a random attack as no connection has yet been made between the two men.

    Garnet Caton, who was sitting in the seat in front of the victim, said Mr McLean was sleeping with his headphones on when he was attacked.

    Mr Caton said he heard a “blood-curdling scream” and turned around to see the attacker in the seat behind him holding a large hunting knife and “continually stabbing him in the chest area.”

    “He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times,” said Mr Caton, who screamed at the driver to stop the bus.

    Mr Caton herded terrified passengers to the front of the bus before it pulled over and they fled screaming.

    A passing lorry driver stopped to see what was happening. He boarded the bus with Mr Caton and the bus driver, armed with a tyre iron and tried to apprehend the knifeman. “When we came back on the bus, he was cutting the guy’s head off and pretty much gutting him up,” said Mr Caton.

    Then the attacker turned and raced up the aisle towards them, and they retreated as the man began trying to slash them.

    The killer then tried to start up the engine to drive off but the bus driver pressed a button to disable the engine before he could get away.

    “While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us,” said Mr Caton.

    Police arrived on the scene about 10 minutes later and a four-hour standoff ensued.

    The killer taunted police and walked back and forth inside the bus. At one point he held up the severed head for them to see. Bystanders retched at the sight.

    Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Brandon, Manitoba said the attack took place around 8:30 p.m. on an eastbound Greyhound bus on the Trans-Canada Highway about 20 kilometres west of Portage la Prairie.

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    ****ing Awesome and Terrible all at once.

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    yeah, it's big news here. cuz that crazy shit never happens.

    hell, NY has more murders in 4 months than all of canada does in 1 yr....

    what a way to go though, that would suck

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    jesus that is sick. no doubt that guy was possessed!

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    I read about this yesterday on ninemsn.com.au, absolutely ****ed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_J8 View Post
    ****ing Awesome and Terrible all at once.
    ****ing awesome? Bro you have some ****en issues

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    this bothered me all day yesterday man, i cant get over it that there are people like that in this world. Unbelievable, I wonder if they performed any analysys on this guy to see if he was on any hallucinagens or something crazy, even then lcd never made me hack anyone up, just laugh and chase after imaginary squirells in my room

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    I think we philadelphia-ns have most of you beat. People always use NY as an example so this is 2006 crime rate report NY VS Philadelphia





    ...and i work in the city every day
    Last edited by DSM4Life; 08-02-2008 at 11:01 AM.

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    DSM, you are the one responsible for the rise in turd burglery in Philly. quit complaining. j/k I love U.

    I was gonna go with a forcible rape joke, but you got that one instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diary of a Mad-man View Post
    DSM, you are the one responsible for the rise in turd burglery in Philly. quit complaining. j/k I love U.

    I was gonna go with a forcible rape joke, but you got that one instead.
    And i have my eye on your my next victim.

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    i was hoping i'd be next.

    i'll happily wait in line tho

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    man that is just sick...i don't see how somebody could do that to somebody

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    Something makes me more comfortable to be living in a high murder state (NJ) then in those creepy parts of the world (canada =]) where freaks like this exist.

    Like they're so repressed they just crack one day and start chopping off heads. Over here we just casually shoot whoever we don't like. I like it better that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I think we philadelphia-ns have most of you beat. People always use NY as an example so this is 2006 crime rate report NY VS Philadelphia





    ...and i work in the city every day

    ah the city of brotherly love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska View Post
    ****ing awesome? Bro you have some ****en issues
    I know.

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    yeah I made a thread about this yesterday in the news section. I'm def gonna think twice about who i sit next to on the train and on planes and stuff for now on. Things like this are crazy as is, but when the killer has no motive and doesn't even know the victim....thats what makes it really scarry

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    Here's a video of an interview with the passenger who sat in front of the victim:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68_WE9wLpk

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    Kinda ****ed up how everyone just sat and watched and/or ran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    Kinda ****ed up how everyone just sat and watched and/or ran.
    I know, pussies or what. It was one guy ffs. If he was chopping off your sons head would you have done something? yes of course you would, but because you dont know the guy you dont step in? Bullshit, that guy is someones son, maybe a husband, brother, and a father, you dont sit and watch that shit happen, its not as if he a ****ing machine gun too shoot everyone , he had a knife ffs. Every man on that bus should be ashamed of themselves.

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    we have the luxury of hindsight, the problem is no one knows how there gonna react in a situation like that, i mean we all hope we would act logically and honourably but i guess u don't know till ur in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokers99 View Post
    I know, pussies or what. It was one guy ffs. If he was chopping off your sons head would you have done something? yes of course you would, but because you dont know the guy you dont step in? Bullshit, that guy is someones son, maybe a husband, brother, and a father, you dont sit and watch that shit happen, its not as if he a ****ing machine gun too shoot everyone , he had a knife ffs. Every man on that bus should be ashamed of themselves.

    just curious, have you ever taken a knife away from someone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokers99 View Post
    I know, pussies or what. It was one guy ffs. If he was chopping off your sons head would you have done something? yes of course you would, but because you dont know the guy you dont step in? Bullshit, that guy is someones son, maybe a husband, brother, and a father, you dont sit and watch that shit happen, its not as if he a ****ing machine gun too shoot everyone , he had a knife ffs. Every man on that bus should be ashamed of themselves.


    Yeah. I mean, Im not saying I would be the first to jump in and be the almighty hero ya know. Im sure I would be pretty freaked out.

    But I couldn't sit there and watch someone get stabbed 40-50 times without doing something.

    2-3 average guys could've over taken him pretty easily imo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewerpi View Post
    just curious, have you ever taken a knife away from someone?
    Sort of, i was cooking dinner the other day and my gf passed me the knife to cut the bread and i took it out of her hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokers99 View Post
    Sort of, i was cooking dinner the other day and my gf passed me the knife to cut the bread and i took it out of her hands.
    Not funny.

    What a sad world we live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daem View Post
    Not funny.

    What a sad world we live in.
    yes.

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    There is nothing awesome about this.
    That's terrible! The kid was 22 years old and will never experience life to its fullest!
    Love, Marriage, Children, Grand Children., Growing old with the one they love

    Imagine someone you loved being stabbed to death. Maybe they are the sweetest person in the world. Would you think it awesome if someone stabbed them? They should never have to experience this!
    Then on top of it, some asshole says "awesome!" about it. He doesn't even know how amazing this person was in your life!
    Then the only response would be "i was kidding"

    Fvcking STUPID is what that response is.

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    Yeh really terrible thing to happen, poor kid hadn't really experienced life and it was took away from him by some f****n loser, the world is full of f****d up weirdo's, the law in every country should be a mandatory death sentence for a crime like that IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_J8 View Post
    ****ing Awesome and Terrible all at once.
    so weird that you say that cuz as soon as i got done reading it, i said ****ing awesome. Not the fact that a kid died in a terrible way, but thats something out of a horror movie. Including the fact he stood there infront of everyone with a head in his hand and dropped it at their feet. ****ed up, but if you saw this scene in a horror flick you would be like "thats crazy".

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    see, that's the thing, it WASN'T a horror film, it is reality. THAT'S why it's not cool. christ, i LOVE blood and guts and scary shit, i've got well over 100 dvd's and 90% of them are horror... but this really disturbed me cuz it's REAL LIFE. i find it hard to put it into words... kinda makes me feel sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    Kinda ****ed up how everyone just sat and watched and/or ran.

    That was the first thing that crossed my mind... a couple more people along with the victim would have easily intimidated him.... I think the fear from everyone fed his rage and impowered him.... PUNK

    The other thing is why a four hour standoff??? he was alone in the bus... I would have went in blazing, end of story within the first hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    That was the first thing that crossed my mind... a couple more people along with the victim would have easily intimidated him.... I think the fear from everyone fed his rage and impowered him.... PUNK
    Because the guy was a normal family man who for some reason went berzerk... only a few hours before the bus trip he left a message to his wife that all was well and he was on his way home...

    What happened after, nobody knows at this point, but he clearly lost it... and at that moment an entire bus load of folks did not intimidate him, nor did a bunch of armed cops after the fact.

    The other thing is why a four hour standoff??? he was alone in the bus... I would have went in blazing, end of story within the first hour.
    Because this is Canada and things like that are not done here (or at least highly avoided). In that case he was alone on the bus and was no longer a threat to anyone, so the cops took the time necessary to arrest him safely so he can face justice.

    It's obvious the man has serious mental problems, and going in shooting like a bunch of yahoos would have done nothing to help him, and would have done even less for the poor family of the deceased.

    Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Something makes me more comfortable to be living in a high murder state (NJ) then in those creepy parts of the world (canada =]) where freaks like this exist.

    Like they're so repressed they just crack one day and start chopping off heads. Over here we just casually shoot whoever we don't like. I like it better that way.
    ok, lemmie count the # of insane psycho's you guys have had that have made world news. oh, wait. i dont have that much time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ketchup View Post
    Because the guy was a normal family man who for some reason went berzerk... only a few hours before the bus trip he left a message to his wife that all was well and he was on his way home...

    What happened after, nobody knows at this point, but he clearly lost it... and at that moment an entire bus load of folks did not intimidate him, nor did a bunch of armed cops after the fact.



    Because this is Canada and things like that are not done here (or at least highly avoided). In that case he was alone on the bus and was no longer a threat to anyone, so the cops took the time necessary to arrest him safely so he can face justice.

    It's obvious the man has serious mental problems, and going in shooting like a bunch of yahoos would have done nothing to help him, and would have done even less for the poor family of the deceased.

    Red

    Red, I understand the first statement...

    The second one.... how do you define justice??? proper arrest and justice? The dude just got done cutting someones head off...there is no need for further assessment or help...Why should this person be treated fairly.... the only way that he should be treated fairly is if he walked out immediately with is hands up... waving a dudes head around in a bus and acting hostile means it is beyond that and quick and deadly force is the necessary. if he had a person hostage or was in there by himself, well that is a different story... but, this story calls for quick action imo...

    also, serious mental problems will not justify homicide... that is a new modern belief that I don't buy into... anyone could have claimed this all through history... it doesn't mean a thing... you did what you did regardless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    how do you define justice??? proper arrest and justice?
    Yup... This is not the far west, we're not a bunch of savages and our cops are not judge, jury and executionner.

    Their job is to safely bring a person like him in front of the justice system, and that system will deal with the nutcase. Whatever happens he'll most probably end up behind bars or in a padded room for the rest of his life.

    The system may not be perfect, but it's the best we got... and honestly I'd rather see fair due process than cops shooting down criminals whenever they feel like it (even if I agree some criminals should be executed right there and then).

    Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    Red, I understand the first statement...

    The second one.... how do you define justice??? proper arrest and justice? The dude just got done cutting someones head off...there is no need for further assessment or help...Why should this person be treated fairly.... the only way that he should be treated fairly is if he walked out immediately with is hands up... waving a dudes head around in a bus and acting hostile means it is beyond that and quick and deadly force is the necessary. if he had a person hostage or was in there by himself, well that is a different story... but, this story calls for quick action imo...

    also, serious mental problems will not justify homicide... that is a new modern belief that I don't buy into... anyone could have claimed this all through history... it doesn't mean a thing... you did what you did regardless....

    i went through this same argument friday night when i first heard about it. do i think eye for an eye would be more just sometimes then the system we have? ****in rights. but thats not the system...and how can any law be maintained without consistancy. if laws were bent every time someone responsible for thier authority took something personally things would be alot more difficult and corrupt then they already are. this guy was no emmediate threat to anyone during this standoff. he had a knife, what was he gonna do, throw it at someone? there was how many guns pointing him? dozens? how many snipers ready to open this freak up in the blink of an eye if it was necessary, but it wasnt. he was completely at their mercy and if at any point he would have done anything that put another persons life at risk he would have been swiss cheese. but instead they handled it accordingly and saved a life that while may not deserve to be alive will at least be a useful tool in piecing all of this together and taking valuable information from this tragedy. this is one of the most ****ed up things ive ever heard of happening in canada, and if this happened to my brother, it would probably be my personal mission in life to capture and torture this ****in piece of shit to death, but having no personal attachment to either party involved and being able to look at this from an impartial window, thats my honest opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ketchup View Post
    Yup... This is not the far west, we're not a bunch of savages and our cops are not judge, jury and executionner.

    Their job is to safely bring a person like him in front of the justice system, and that system will deal with the nutcase. Whatever happens he'll most probably end up behind bars or in a padded room for the rest of his life.

    The system may not be perfect, but it's the best we got... and honestly I'd rather see fair due process than cops shooting down criminals whenever they feel like it (even if I agree some criminals should be executed right there and then).

    Red
    lol...you beat me too it..but yeah, thats pretty much what im sayin.

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    Red, Tank,

    Well I guess there are a lot of ways of looking at things...I don't think it is "barbaric" or the "ol west" if the police go in to bus immediately with gun pointed at guys chest and say drop your weapon and put your hands in the air.... the guy either complies or charges and creates his own destiny.... no need for a big standoff or no need to go in blazing either.... That is the way I see it... The only reason for a standoff is if he has a gun (levels the field) or an upperhand with a hostage etc... that is what I mean by a needless standoff... of course there was other circumstances to consider.

    Maybe you mistook what I was saying to mean go in blazing away literally... of course proper procedures for arresting and complying need to be administered, but any type of bargaining or negotiating was really pointless to me... just my opinion though.... nothing archaic about that... I know less extreme circumstances get handled in that manner all over the world.. this is just how this was handled so there is support for it and opinions against it....

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    I'm in agreement with rockinred on this one.

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