dbol vs tbol

[listerine]

Age 21, weight 185, height 6'1, BF 9.5%

I want to use one of the compounds with test 500mg EW for ten weeks with letro (or arimidex) for gyno sympytoms. My goal is to gain 25 lbs (20 at the very least) with minimal fat gains as i want to maintain my bodyfat which would be better

[dece870717]

20lbs of what? Theres no way you can gain 20lbs of muscle. You'll gain 20lbs with muscle AND water included. Tbol doesn't give you water retention but Dbol is a bit stronger.

[listerine]

no i mean at least 20 lbs of muscle with not alot of fat gains

[dece870717]

no i mean at least 20 lbs of muscle with not alot of fat gains

You're not going to gain 20lbs of muscle. You'll probably gain 10lbs at most.

[listerine]

ok then which compound would give me more mass but not increase my BF to drasticly

[fattymcbutterpants]

Yea, when you step on a scale your weight may go up like 25 pounds or so but not all of that is going to be muscle. A significant portion of the weight gained on cycle will be from water retention

[fattymcbutterpants]

ok then which compound would give me more mass but not increase my BF to drasticly

Most of them wont increase your bodyfat drastically as far as i know they like i said in my last post will make you just gain alot of water weight wich you will lose most of the water once off cycle

[Johny-too-small]

10lbs of muscle would be a dream cycle for anyone. I'll bet if his diet is awesome, he might get 5 or 6.

If 20-25lbs were realistic, we would all be watching him on stage at the Mr. O.

At his age and weight he should need to work on his diet, as its clear that he has not reached his natty potential yet.

[Johny-too-small]

most of them wont increase your bodyfat drastically as far as i know they like i said in my last post will make you just gain alot of water weight wich you will lose most of the water once off cycle

gear does not add fat or burn it. That is diet alone.

[listerine]

but doesnt tbol give you more lean muscle mass which means more muscle than fat

[dece870717]

but doesnt tbol give you more lean muscle mass which means more muscle than fat

Fat gain is about diet. You would look leaner with Tbol than Dbol because Dbol will bloat you WITH water not fat.

[listerine]

the water would then come eventually naturally and since im running an AI right