Have you ever gotten "test flu"? never/once/sometimes/always

[one8nine]

the idea is you get flu like symptoms at the beginning of a cycle from your body thinking the foreign substance is an infection.
who has had this?
ive never

[Bigmax]

Me either.

[one8nine]

Me either.

you gotta vote

[Quicksilva]

On my first ever cycle now, week 5 at the moment. Got flu like symptoms on end of week 3 and it lasted a few days felt like absolute shit and was very short of breath. Once it passed I am now training like a beast!

[JiGGaMaN]

One inject of some ugl T-400 put me out for 3 days.

[Bigmax]

Voted..lol

[te4vass]

I have once. This cycle im on now. My first cycle i never had any symptoms or sides. This one im on now (my second one) I have gotten the upset stomach (test flu). Goes away within a day or two, and comes back frequently. Nothing I cant handle but just a downer esp if it comes on right before work or a visit to the gym.

[mkrulic]

One inject of some ugl T-400 put me out for 3 days.

I got some t500 that put me down every time I took it.

[BUYLONGTERM]

I think you need to put an option on there that states "What in the world is Test flu"

[one8nine]

haha can i edit? lets see

[one8nine]

nope

[beachbum28]

I used to get sust flu when i shot 2x/wk, but going back to 1x/wk corrected that issue. I got it every week on wed like clockwork. I don't care what anyone say, sust is best taken 1/wk for me anyway! Still great..GREAT results at 450/1x/wk

[one8nine]

I used to get sust flu when i shot 2x/wk, but going back to 1x/wk corrected that issue. I got it every week on wed like clockwork. I don't care what anyone say, sust is best taken 1/wk for me anyway! Still great..GREAT results at 450/1x/wk

maybe thats related to all your "help i have gyno" threads

[BUYLONGTERM]

I used to get sust flu when i shot 2x/wk, but going back to 1x/wk corrected that issue. I got it every week on wed like clockwork. I don't care what anyone say, sust is best taken 1/wk for me anyway! Still great..GREAT results at 450/1x/wk

Come on now...You can't be serious? There is no way taking sust 1x/wk is better than taking it EOD? That logic makes no sense. But hey, if you got great results doing that way, I applaud you!

[BUYLONGTERM]

maybe thats related to all your "help i have gyno" threads

lol

[JiGGaMaN]

I have once. This cycle im on now. My first cycle i never had any symptoms or sides. This one im on now (my second one) I have gotten the upset stomach (test flu). Goes away within a day or two, and comes back frequently. Nothing I cant handle but just a downer esp if it comes on right before work or a visit to the gym.

Trust me thats not test flu when you get the runs. Test flu is where you run a huge fever and cant move for a couple days.

[beachbum28]

Trust me thats not test flu when you get the runs. Test flu is where you run a huge fever and cant move for a couple days.

As I said "FOR ME," 2 x/wk gave me full blown sust flu...cold sweats, chills, dizzy, sore skin to touch...just like reg flu! I got that every wed starting around week 5 when buildup must have started. I did that for 4 weeks and got sick of getting sick and dropped it down and never had a prob. tried again on another cycle and same thing. I know what sust flu is.

[beachbum28]

Come on now...You can't be serious? There is no way taking sust 1x/wk is better than taking it EOD? That logic makes no sense. But hey, if you got great results doing that way, I applaud you!

First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

[beachbum28]

maybe thats related to all your "help i have gyno" threads

We aren't here to guess, nor to "quote and act like a jackass!" Yes, I need help as this is the first time this has happened to me. I have never had a problem with sust in all my cycles, but the 2 times with deca has not been that good..first had recovery problems, and now gyno. I'm done with Deca...going back to eq and sust where I can put on a solid 12 pounds of muscle with no problems.

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

What data? Show us. Whose this racehorse? Name names.

[one8nine]

First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

because it has test decanoate and was invented for hrt. meaning 1ml every 10-14 days is good for hrt

bodybuilders use higher dosages

[one8nine]

What data? Show us. Whose this racehorse? Name names.

i think race vet racehorse was a joke
like the saying "straight from the horses mouth"
a vet that doesnt know how he got gyno or what to do about it even after 20+ threads opened in 24 hours

[BIG-N-Brazil]

First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

Can you give link to this data?

[one8nine]

Can you give link to this data?

it is true for hrt patients
its made so they can shoot 1ml every 2 weeks about
not bodybuilder dosages though

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

it is true for hrt patients
its made so they can shoot 1ml every 2 weeks about
not bodybuilder dosages though

He wasnt talking about hrt patients though. He better not even try to say he was anyway........... lol

[BIG-N-Brazil]

189 how have you managed to not tell him how bad sust sucks.lol jp

[DS21]

On my first cycle I tesp prop, I injected in my quad and felt sick for days, but I don't know if it was the pain or the test? Either way I couldn't walk or eat for 2 days.

[Crest]

got it on my 1st cycle, never since

[inky-e]

I did on sust, cip on the other hand has only given me a runny nose.

[BUYLONGTERM]

maybe thats related to all your "help i have gyno" threads

First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

I'm not going to argue about HRT doses vs what we take on a cycle! All I know is the more consistent you are when dealing with different esters, the less side effects you will experience. I prefer to have stable blood levels. Hey, My dr. wanted to give me an HRT shot of Test every 2 weeks. I told him you are crazy!

BLT

[BUYLONGTERM]

I did on sust, cip on the other hand has only given me a runny nose.

A runny nose isn't test flu. Not saying you think this, Just want the rest of the guys not to vote YES because they got the sniffles!

[BUYLONGTERM]

First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

YOU will NOT find 1 MOD/VET/experienced guy on any board agreeing with this logic when it comes to taking Sust.

[one8nine]

189 how have you managed to not tell him how bad sust sucks.lol jp

i told him to take letro for gyno and he still started 20 more threads asking what to do

[BIG-N-Brazil]

At least you tried

[xavier_888888]

On the first week of my cycle. I like it tho , thats how my body tells me my gear is working.

[stpete]

Not me. Never.

[beachbum28]

i think race vet racehorse was a joke
like the saying "straight from the horses mouth"
a vet that doesnt know how he got gyno or what to do about it even after 20+ threads opened in 24 hours

Actually that wasn't a joke, and I just got to talk to him after all the posts. I am going tomorrow to get my fix, and no it's not progest/prolac related gyno, and yes Nolva was a good choice to use to hold it a bay. Problem was, when I mentioned deca and gyno, every just jumped on the DECA+NOLAVA=GYNO craze and never really took any time to ask questions. I said my nips were uneffected, which is the first sign that its not prog/prolac gyno after 5 plus weeks of no change. The lump is a sign of test gyno, which also happens in animals, especially race horses...hence the knowlege from the vet is a pretty good bet! He showed me pics today, detailed charts of blood work and how estr/prolac/prog work in the body...etc./. tons of shit that I really didn't take in... Anyway...I'm done with the gyno threads.

[beachbum28]

He wasnt talking about hrt patients though. He better not even try to say he was anyway........... lol

You really need to get you dumbass off the board.. No that's not hrt... 250mg/wk is enough to have good gains on sust.

[beachbum28]

I'm not going to argue about HRT doses vs what we take on a cycle! All I know is the more consistent you are when dealing with different esters, the less side effects you will experience. I prefer to have stable blood levels. Hey, My dr. wanted to give me an HRT shot of Test every 2 weeks. I told him you are crazy!

BLT

I know that many juicers take more, but have you ever tried 250 mg/wk? I bet NO! I have, and guess what... it worked pretty damn good! Now I increased it the next time just due to recept burn effect, but only to 375 with no much different effects. I also did the eod with it and only got sick as hell every week with no better results. I am more interested in taking less and getting good results.

[beachbum28]

i told him to take letro for gyno and he still started 20 more threads asking what to do

Hey Bro.. i appreciate your advice..and I told you that I couldn't get it right now. Also, I didn't truely believe that it was prolactin type so I had to ask around. Do you always take 1 opinion..NO Don't rag on me cause i want the best answer...and that means getting everyone's opinion and then weeding through. As I said, noone asked anthing..just started popping off Letro pills like i was at the doctor.