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    cutting with var

    Cutting is going well, I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week but I want to get ripped and I'm afraid I'm gonna cut a lot of muscle if I go any further.
    That's why I wanna get some anavar to stay anti-catabolic and I've heard it also works the stomach area melting away the fat (so I've heard).

    Would this be a good cutter ?

    5 weeks 30mg/day anavar
    Last edited by TallMan; 09-05-2008 at 07:35 AM.

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    post up your diet/workout first

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    post up your diet/workout first
    1:
    80 gram cruesli
    50 gram whey
    1 glass of grapefruitjuice


    2:
    5 eggs


    3:
    500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
    30 gram olive oil


    4:
    meat,veggies,potatoes


    5:
    500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
    30 gram olive oil


    Total
    2533 kcals
    260 gram protein
    118 gram carbs
    134 gram fat

    I workout the split way total of 3 times a week and almost no cardio cause I don't really need to do that as I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallMan View Post
    1:
    80 gram cruesli
    50 gram whey
    1 glass of grapefruitjuice


    2:
    5 eggs


    3:
    500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
    30 gram olive oil


    4:
    meat,veggies,potatoes


    5:
    500 gram cottage cheese-like stuff
    30 gram olive oil


    Total
    2533 kcals
    260 gram protein
    118 gram carbs
    134 gram fat

    I workout the split way total of 3 times a week and almost no cardio cause I don't really need to do that as I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week.
    what is the cottage cheese like stuff? is it cottage cheese? Im thinking not. do you know your fat is almost half your caloric intake. seems way high. I would never exceede 30%. I would add more of 4 and less of 3. is the meat chicken or beef. why did you go w/ these %'tages? Im coming up w/ 41/18/48
    that seems like more than 100%. let me do the math
    260*4=1040
    118*4=472
    134*9=1206
    1206+472+1040=2718
    ok now lets do the breakdown
    38%/17%/44%
    pro/carb/fat
    seems high for fat. are you carb cycling?

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    bump

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    workout?
    diet looks okay but im not the diet guy lets get this bumped for phate

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    workout?
    diet looks okay but im not the diet guy lets get this bumped for phate
    monday:
    12 sets chest
    6 sets triceps
    4 sets shoulders

    wednesday:
    12 sets back
    6 sets biceps

    friday:
    12 sets legs
    6 sets calves

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallMan View Post
    monday:
    12 sets chest
    6 sets triceps
    4 sets shoulders

    wednesday:
    12 sets back
    6 sets biceps

    friday:
    12 sets legs
    6 sets calves
    give shoulders its own day. its too taxed at the end of monday to really get anything and 4 sets is like warm up. 12 sets back seems a little light. I would split the leg into 2 sections and work on different days. hams and quads seperated by 4 days. and I like to put arms on its own day. you could turn this into a 6 day a week routine. this would give more attention to each individual muscle group.
    as far as loosing weight goes, your body does not like to burn protien. If your loosing weight its probably a good thing.

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    @mkrulic:
    Carbs make me fat. I'm doing my own version of the anabolic diet. Just keeping my carbs low and eating some nice pizza in the weekend hehe. Seems to work.

    Splitting it up might be a good idea, but I think I'd rather add 1 day instead of 3 days. How about I add an arm/shoulder day at the end of the week ?
    And why is 12 sets for back to light ? After that I'll only lower in weight even more, isn't that just a waste of time ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallMan View Post
    @mkrulic:
    Carbs make me fat. I'm doing my own version of the anabolic diet. Just keeping my carbs low and eating some nice pizza in the weekend hehe. Seems to work.

    Splitting it up might be a good idea, but I think I'd rather add 1 day instead of 3 days. How about I add an arm/shoulder day at the end of the week ?
    And why is 12 sets for back to light ? After that I'll only lower in weight even more, isn't that just a waste of time ?
    like 189 said, carbs are essential. read the cutting stickey in the diet section. dont worry about loosing muscle mass. your body does not want to burn protien.
    as for arm/shoulder day give it a try. and then try seperating and see which works best for you.
    as for the back, what are the excersizes you are doing and how many sets for each?

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    no cardio?
    carbs are essential

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    no cardio?
    carbs are essential
    That's why I eat them. Only not more than I need to.

    Yup, no cardio. The only nice thing about being an ectomorph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallMan View Post
    That's why I eat them. Only not more than I need to.

    Yup, no cardio. The only nice thing about being an ectomorph.
    youre an ectomorph but you want to cut- somethings mixed up here
    dont bother with a cutting cycle if you dont have cardio
    1. diet
    2. workout
    3. cardio
    4. steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    youre an ectomorph but you want to cut- somethings mixed up here
    dont bother with a cutting cycle if you dont have for cardio
    1. diet
    2. workout
    3. cardio
    4. steroids
    You think ectomorphs can't get fat ?
    I don't even look like a typical ecto anymore bro but that doesn't mean that my somatype has changed.

    It's not like a don't have the balls for cardio or anything. That's just a dumb thing to say. It's not that I don't wanna do it but I'm afraid I'm gonna lose to much weight to fast.
    I make myself love cardio if it contributes to a good looking body. I dont give a **** bro

    How much pounds a week would still be good to lose every week ?
    I thought that 2 lbs was about the maximum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallMan View Post
    You think ectomorphs can't get fat ?
    I don't even look like a typical ecto anymore bro but that doesn't mean that my somatype has changed.

    It's not like a don't have the balls for cardio or anything. That's just a dumb thing to say. It's not that I don't wanna do it but I'm afraid I'm gonna lose to much weight to fast.
    I make myself love cardio if it contributes to a good looking body. I dont give a **** bro

    How much pounds a week would still be good to lose every week ?
    I thought that 2 lbs was about the maximum...
    no i dont but i do think fat people need to do cardio is my point

    diet is very important for cutting, i just get a little offended when people want to turn to steroids before or instead of hard work

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    this is the thread I was refering to:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729
    and it was this inparticular:
    "2. Carbs- You are **** right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they don’t count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams."

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    2lbs a week is optimum in my opinion. if you dont like cardio then maybee switch up your workouts to full body ones. thay r not nessesaraly good for bulking but i find it is great for cutting. think about it. full body workouts stimulate the whole body,are intense if you keep rest between sets to 30-60 sec. intense workouts allegedly raise the bodys gh output(which helps in the facilitation of burning fat) and guess what,you can possibly get away with no cardio.if you were to try the full body workout then read up on circut training,super setting,giant sets,tecniques like that.also remember to keep the weights fairly heavy but at a weight that you can do for 12-15 reps.anyway thats my 2 cents. ive been doing it for the last 14 weeks and have lost 20lbs of fat.(ive been taking clen too)at week 17 i plan to shake it up and go back to traditional straight sets for 2 body parts a day split.i hope this helps man. experiment and find what works for you.p.s. if you try full body i thinck you will find them tougher than your current routien as long as you keep them intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallMan View Post
    Cutting is going well, I'm loosing about 2 lbs a week but I want to get ripped and I'm afraid I'm gonna cut a lot of muscle if I go any further.
    That's why I wanna get some anavar to stay anti-catabolic and I've heard it also works the stomach area melting away the fat (so I've heard).

    Would this be a good cutter ?

    5 weeks 30mg/day anavar
    Its statments like this that make poeple wounder if you really understand the importance of understanding nutrition and fitness. have you read the link I posted? 189, like everyoine else, is tryin to help.

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    waarvan de acties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Admin* View Post
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    I love it when admin talks dirty !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Admin* View Post
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    that was good

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    so you want to use drugs to "melt away fat" (in your original post)
    and you expect to get cut without working hard
    It's not getting through your thick head now does it ?

    I understand why my first post might confuse people, but I've explained myself enough to the point a retard gets it. Why don;t you ? LOL

    edit: oh you got banned LOL, good for you prick

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    Ik kan google ook gebruiken

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    Ik kan google ook gebruiken
    lol

    Ik maak geen gebruik van google hond

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    Ik raad dan indien u de echte taal dan deze vrije vertaler spreekt verwart mijn woorden en maakt mij lijken op een idioot

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    lol
    ur cool in my book bud

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    The first and last time I took Var I gained between 5-10 pounds of water and started to get gyno, had to order some Letro... it sucked.

    And whats up with the Deutsch, you guys got me all jacked up lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broozer View Post
    The first and last time I took Var I gained between 5-10 pounds of water and started to get gyno, had to order some Letro... it sucked.

    And whats up with the Deutsch, you guys got me all jacked up lol

    Very highly doubt it was VAR sounds like D-bol someone sold to you as VAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbanzo Dude View Post
    Very highly doubt it was VAR sounds like D-bol someone sold to you as VAR
    x2
    var doesnt aromatize its dht

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    Quote Originally Posted by stallion_1 View Post
    lol
    ur cool in my book bud
    hey we may argue a lot but if i saw you gettin beat up id only way 20 or 30 second before jumpin in to help ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    hey we may argue a lot but if i saw you gettin beat up id only way 20 or 30 second before jumpin in to help ya
    lol


    that means a lot to me buddy

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    189 did nothing but try to help you and this is the thanks you offered. nice.

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