Changing mid cycle

[Thunderlips]

G'day fellas, Just wondering if it's possible to change mid cycle. I've been using 2 ml of sus 250 week for 4 weeks but the post injection pain is horrific. It takes min 7 days and up to 12 days to recover and it feels like i've been hit by a baseball bat. I know some people say just man up and put up with it, but I literally cant put a shirt on (rear delt inj.) for about a week. If i do the quad i can barely walk for a week. I honestly have a decent pain tolerance as I was an mma fighter and understand muscle pain etc. What i was considering was changing over to 2 x 250mg enanthate injections per week as I never had any pain at all with enanthate. I know my test levels should be up by now and i'm starting to feel the effects of the sus. i planned to do a 10 weeker with the last 6 weeks adding in stanazol at 50mg every day. I hope to increase the enanthate for a further 8 weeks making it a 12 weeker, adding the stan the last 6 weeks. What do you guys think. I would just soldier on if I could but it's almost impossible to train with this level of soreness, so what's the point then eh? Thanks in advance fellas

[WARMachine]

Sustacrap strikes again...

I cant wait for 189 to see this one... haha


I wouldnt use test E bro, use somethin with a short ester like Test Prop, if you dont mind ED injections...

This way you will see the effects before your cycle actually ends...

If your gonna go with the E, youre gonna miss out on 3 weeks of results...

[Thunderlips]

wouldn't prop give me even more pain post injection

[inky-e]

Ive done the same thing, just takes a few weeks for the enanthate to kick, you could switch to prop and be seamless, but then prop will fukk youi up too!! I love cip!!!

[Thunderlips]

I thought that sus takes about 4-5 weeks to kick in. So if my levels are up from the sus and I change to test E, why would it take 3 weeks for the test E to kick in. I understand that test E is longer estered and that's why it takes 6-7 weeks to kick in. I just wondered if my levels were high already why the test E wouldn't work straight away. Not arguing, just wondering.

[widowmaker2]

no you should feel the sus within the first couple days...if your in week 4 and not feeling anything somethings def wrong...how far apart are your sust shots???

[Thunderlips]

G'day fusion. I'm definately feeling the effects of the sus mate. Getting harder, put on 3kg, stronger probably 10-15%, hungry as hell and horny as f#$%. Sorry mate should have been clearer. What I mean is I've just started feeling the effects quite strongly. I know it's legit gear as it's from the chemist mate. I'm injecting Mondays and thursdays. I know they say e/d or eod but at the moment, if i went e/d I wouldn't be able to move.

[Thunderlips]

bump

[one8nine]

you can switch to anything
prop = ed shots, could hurt if your source sucks
enanthate = 2x a week but extend your cycle it will take a little while to peak

[one8nine]

ps
sust sucks

[Amorphic]

i would switch to prop personally.

[one8nine]

G'day fusion. I'm definately feeling the effects of the sus mate. Getting harder, put on 3kg, stronger probably 10-15%, hungry as hell and horny as f#$%. Sorry mate should have been clearer. What I mean is I've just started feeling the effects quite strongly. I know it's legit gear as it's from the chemist mate. I'm injecting Mondays and thursdays. I know they say e/d or eod but at the moment, if i went e/d I wouldn't be able to move.

dont expect results halfassing your shots
plus if you shoot ed you only gotta pin 1/4ml

[Doc.Sust]

one. try the glutes
two if you switch to anything(except for prop or suspension) it is going to take 4 wks to kick in. i did this once , switched from enth to sut. big mistake IMO

[Thunderlips]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll try the glutes. Do you recommend I pin 1/4 ml every day or should I continue the 1ml 2x week. I have the 1ml vials, so if I only do 1/4 a day or 1/2 eod, how do I keep it sterile and clean

[MuscleScience]

Thunderlips, Wasnt that the name of the chick in M.A.S.H ?

[BritishColumbian]

dont expect results halfassing your shots
plus if you shoot ed you only gotta pin 1/4ml

That is AWSOME advice right there.

[one8nine]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll try the glutes. Do you recommend I pin 1/4 ml every day or should I continue the 1ml 2x week. I have the 1ml vials, so if I only do 1/4 a day or 1/2 eod, how do I keep it sterile and clean

try 1/4 mL ed is you can take it thats going to be the least pain

or you can mix sterile oil with it

[one8nine]

read this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4177202

[Thunderlips]

Awesome info 189. Thanks a lot. I'll try it out and let you know how it goes. Muscle science, the chick on Mash was "Hot lips". "Thunderlips" was Hulk Hogan in Rocky 3.

[kingwilliam]

see if you can get prop and enanthate....take the prop to keep your test levels high in the meantime, and also to the enanthate for the future