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    Diet on 1st cycle

    Alright guys, I am currently entering my 5th week of sustanon 250 @ 500mg/wk; i started the cycle at around 170lbs. (I'll give stats at bottom). Toward week 4 i got up to around 175lbs. (prolly from diet), but then i started to develop gyno. As a result i began using Aromasin b/c i didnt have adex on hand. Week 5 i am starting off at 171lbs.... is the aromasin to blame for weight loss or is my diet:

    All meals include protein, complex carbs, good fat, and fiber.
    4-5meals/day + snacks throughout the day
    Calories fluctuate around 3100, but all clean meals
    Goal: 10lbs. lean muscle by week 12

    typical meal 1 and pre-workout meal
    6 egg whites
    3 whole wheat toasts
    Smart balance light spread
    2 fruits
    Multivitamin
    Water

    typical meal 2 and post-workout meal
    10-12 slices oven-roasted turkey breast
    3 whole wheat toasts
    smart balance light spread
    Honey
    1-2 fruits
    Water

    Stats:
    20yrs old
    170-175lbs.
    6% bf
    1 cycle (pending)


    Again, question is: is it because of my caloric intake or the aromasin that my gains are not only not progressing, but actually regressing?? THANK YOU!

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    I couldn't comment on the effects of your cycle on weight gain or loss but your diet sure isn't helping your cause any...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger02 View Post
    I couldn't comment on the effects of your cycle on weight gain or loss but your diet sure isn't helping your cause any...
    DITTO

    You need more of everything!

    Give a better diet break down, meal stats, times, macro break down, etc...

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    i cant give you that info because it fluctuates from day to day based on my work and school schedule. how is my diet not helping my cause any tho? what is wrong with my diet...? Im eating in excess of 3000 calories all from good sources and all my meals are completely balanced... so I am assuming you guys are stating 3000 calories is not enough to gain muscle? at my current age height (5'9") and weight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blooddraine View Post
    i cant give you that info because it fluctuates from day to day based on my work and school schedule. how is my diet not helping my cause any tho? what is wrong with my diet...? Im eating in excess of 3000 calories all from good sources and all my meals are completely balanced... so I am assuming you guys are stating 3000 calories is not enough to gain muscle? at my current age height (5'9") and weight...
    That right there is a big part of it. We can and will help you design a diet with good foods, but without any consistency you'll never be able to know what is working and what isn't.

    It looks like your only sources of carbs are bread and fruit. And if these meals are repeated throughout the day, thats simply too much of both. You need some oats in the morning and some sweet potatoes for lunch and maybe some red potatoes or brown rice for dinner... or some combination of those...

    Also is the turkey breast the packaged and processed and sugar added kind? If so get some Chicken breast, steak, tuna, or lean ground beef in there instead.

    Post up them totals and we'll get ya situated bud!

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    no the turkey breast is oven-roasted fresh from deli. Here is my take on it, the carbs shouldnt matter if its coming from multigrain bread or brown rice, in the end they are both non-processed complex carbs and in your body they both produce a slow and steady rise in insulin levels which is key in not converting excess sugar into fat, yet restoring glycogen stores in both your liver and muscles. I might be wrong but I just dont see a difference... I dont see a problem in changing the source of carbs tho, i just want to understand what the difference is. What info do you guys need from me specifically??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blooddraine View Post
    Alright guys, I am currently entering my 5th week of sustanon 250 @ 500mg/wk; i started the cycle at around 170lbs. (I'll give stats at bottom). Toward week 4 i got up to around 175lbs. (prolly from diet), but then i started to develop gyno. As a result i began using Aromasin b/c i didnt have adex on hand. Week 5 i am starting off at 171lbs.... is the aromasin to blame for weight loss or is my diet:

    All meals include protein, complex carbs, good fat, and fiber.
    4-5meals/day + snacks throughout the day
    Calories fluctuate around 3100, but all clean meals
    Goal: 10lbs. lean muscle by week 12

    typical meal 1 and pre-workout meal
    6 egg whites Throw in a couple whole eggs, you need more fat
    3 whole wheat toasts
    Smart balance light spread
    2 fruits What kind of fruit?
    Multivitamin
    Water

    typical meal 2 and post-workout meal
    10-12 slices oven-roasted turkey breast
    3 whole wheat toasts
    smart balance light spread
    Honey
    1-2 fruits same
    Water

    Stats:
    20yrs old
    170-175lbs.
    6% bf
    1 cycle (pending)


    Again, question is: is it because of my caloric intake or the aromasin that my gains are not only not progressing, but actually regressing?? THANK YOU!
    Your meals are not "completely balanced." You are getting almost no fat sources in your diet, which are an essential component in a "balanced diet." You should be getting 10-15g of fat at least per meal. Try adding nuts, avocado, extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil, oragnic peanut butter, etc.

    As for carb sources, fruits (depending on which fruits) and brown rice are good carb sources, but their are other carb sources such as yams, sweet potatoes, oats, etc. have a lower GI, thus reducing insulin spikes even further and also providing a prolonged feeling of satiation. Since you seem to really like bread, the best kind I've found as far as nutrients go is an organic bread made primarily from soy and legumes called Ezekiel. Just a thought....

    To get a solid guesstimate of how many calories you should be taking in, caluclate your BMR.

    http://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/

    Take that number and add about 500 calories...

    Check out the Fruit....Negative Effects thread too...
    Last edited by fit4ever180; 09-25-2008 at 12:48 AM.

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    http://www.glycemicindex.com/newsrelease.htm

    Here's a study about the benefits of lower GI carb sources. What it boils down to is this: Is a few slices of wheat bread going to ruin your diet? No. Could you be making better food selection choices? Yes. It's up to you what you choose, but without eating the same things everyday (At least the same macros) how are you going to know what's working and fine tune your diet from there?

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    ur 6% BF thats insane how the hell did u do that?

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    ^^^^^^100%

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    in response to fit4ever... i am taking in at least that much the smart balance light spread has about 5g of fat per serving and i usually spread a serving (at least) on each toast... those grams of fat are also mostly from polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats (good fats). Additionally i am already aware of my "BMR" the rough average from several sources is 2000cal/day, and i am exceeding that by at least a 1000.

    Per day:
    Protein: 200g
    Carbohydrates: 600g
    Fats: 60-75g
    Last edited by Blooddraine; 09-26-2008 at 12:09 AM.

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    the reason why i dont want to experiment with other foods is because after several years of changing diets i have found these foods to produce the most dramatic gains. it is because of this diet that my body fat is so low and yet i still have enough energy for working out, school and work. I just wanted to know if my caloric intake was too low, but you guys keep recommending different sources of carbs as opposed to my bread which is fine, but pointless because either source will produce the same result in your body (they are both low GI). But neway thank you guys for the responses and the comments i appreciate the time taken.

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