Dbol water weight - similar to creatine?

[kloan]

Or more so?

[gehirin]

For myself, dbol had much more water retention than creatine. I think I gained 5 lbs within the first week (a majority being water) and then tapered off as the weeks went by. But dbol definitely increased my endurance and strength during training - helping get the most out of the other AAS stacked with dbol.

[kaberle_15]

More

[kloan]

Is it really obvious? I mean, if people look at me (as in co-workers).. will they be able to tell somethings up?

[JiGGaMaN]

More than likely. My parents can spot if im on something because i puff up like one of those little animals you put in the water and it grows really big, yeah, thats me except its all in my face.

[jc95605]

if your worried about that switch to tbol. Same strength gains without the bloating.

[JiGGaMaN]

if your worried about that switch to tbol. Same strength gains without the bloating.

word. It is a dream.

[gehirin]

Agree with tbol. The side effects are minimal. Good oral for the price.

[kloan]

Interesting, thanks guys.. I'll read up on it.

[anabolictonic]

turinabol is a derivative of dianabol - mainly it just lacks the ability to aromatize ... so AI with dianabol would produce similar results. i just finished dbol with arimidex and gains were very lean- no water

[kloan]

Yeah, I think I might go that route.. since I was thinking about using an AI during cycle for gyno prevention.

I think I'm more concerned with acne than water retention anyway. If it's on my body, no big deal.. summer's over.. but I don't want zits all over my face. So maybe tbol is the way to go... so many options...

[dece870717]

WAY MORE, knew a dude taking dbol and gained like 25lbs in 3-4 weeks. Creatine bloat can't match that.

[Amorphic]

definitely more. my bloat was minimal when i used it but still more than creatine by far

[kloan]

WAY MORE, knew a dude taking dbol and gained like 25lbs in 3-4 weeks. Creatine bloat can't match that.

yeah, that's a frickin lot... but some of that had to muscle.. otherwise, would look like a water balloon man.... lol

[michael tyson]

what are price differences from dbol to tbol?

[WARMachine]

^^^ No price discussion bro...

Come on man, did you even read the rules when you joined?

[kloan]

Is tbol still considered to be a jump starter to a test cycle like dbol is?

Should probably start a new thread for this question, but I figure since it's already been mentioned in here.. no harm in asking.

[WARMachine]

It can be used as such yes...

[kloan]

cool, think i might go that route then.. sounds like it has less sides, and still offers strength gains to help ease into the test... could be a good 1st cycle indeed.