New Member
My weight is 90 kg. Im currently cutting to about 84 kg, and i fight at 86 kg.
I want to do a cycle for strength without ganinig more than 2-3 kilos.
Can you guys tell me whats te best choice?
How much will it cost me?
What things should i learn, if i dont know them already about cycles?
And after we establish all that can you plan me out a cycle?
Banned
dude, any cycle is going to get you more than 2 kilos.. what are your stats? age, height weight bfr... im an mma fighter myself but if fight heavyweight...
from the looiks of it, i would say anavar would be a good choice for you.. do a minimum dosage like 20mg a day split into two servings... my brother did this and put on about 15lbs of muscle in 8 weeks.. just shorten the cycle a bit and watch your diet... it's tricky staying at that weight....
New Member
I'm 18(please, I already made my choice about doing this, and i stopped growin+checked it), 183cm which is 6ft i believe.
I have 90 kg, and i have a kickboxing tournament in december in which ill fight at 86 kilos, but i fight in mma also.
My main goal is to become stronger at 86 kg and with lower bodyfat. I cant cut wegiht, because here in Serbia weigh ins are like 3-4 hours before the fight, and also testing isnt a problem.. there isnt any.
edit.(Money is the problem also i have 100 euros(150 euros tops))
Last edited by MileBlok38; 10-01-2008 at 06:26 AM.
Banned
yea, anavar is one of the safest oral steroids you can do... just make sure you have your workout and diet on check.. as for your age, i really dont give a crap how old u are, just make sure you understand the risks bud... go with the var.. ur gonna want to do six weeks at 20 to 30 mg a day.. good luck with the fight
seems like i cant say how much it costs, your gonna have to figure it out yourself bud, (if you already havn't that is)
Last edited by jamyjamjr; 10-01-2008 at 02:39 PM.
Senior Member
wow! 15pounds from anavar in 8 weeks? And only taking 20mg a day!Originally Posted by jamyjamjr
Either your brother was not telling you everything he was on or this is sounding really far fetched!
did he gain all lean muscle or was he eating a lot and got fat?
I don't think I could gain 15pounds of fat (let alone muscle) no matter what I ate! In only 8weeks.
Banned
he really followed a perfect bulking cycle.. funny thing is that his abs started to define... this was the eurolabs version, these guys got shut down.. they had the best stuff..
Knowledgeable Member
18 is too young for steroids. Also you can gain 2kg naturally.
Banned
i agree with redz but you make your own choices man, u wanna do it, go for it
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
You need to edit this post now...
Between this, and your advice, i think you need to be suspended.
New Member
@redz
my goal isnt to gain weight, in fact if it was possible i wouldnt want to gain any weight.
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
What are you goals then?
And 18 is ENTIRELY to young for AAS... You dont need them...
Banned
huh? do i look like the guys father or something?? he knows hes taking risks.. your no one to judge me so get off your high horse and keep your opinions to yourself thx
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
Or what?
Youre giving bad advice and clearly breaking the rules by discussing prices...
And i am gonna judge you, you dont like it, keep your bad advice to yourself... thats not even a proper amount you recommended. 20 mgs is a waste.
Banned
funny how i know someone who's done 20mg and shown great gains... ur one of those guys that likes to go around bashing newbies huh?? too much time on your hands??? as for pricing, i didn't know i was breaking the rules, never really talked price before and i will edit that for the principle of the rules for this forum.. so if your done playing jesus and telling people how they should live, piss off
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
No i dont like bashing newbies... Im actually here to help, which is why i told a 18 KID not to do steroids...
But when i see someone recommending such, i feel the need to "play jesus" and say something. If indead he is going to do it no matter what, then i will help in order to make sure he doesnt hurt himself...
And thats great for your friend... Doesnt mean thats a correct dose. But what do i know, ive only used it. I only fight professionally. And use Var as bridges all the time.
And yeah you didnt know you were breaking the rules because i doubt youve ever taken the time to respect the board enough to read them...
Banned
ok tough guy... lol if you take the time to look at this post throughly, i did agree with redz when he said the kid was too young.. iv also taken var numerous times at 20-30mg ed and have seen great results.. so if your done throwing titles around, like i give a shit that your a pro fighter, that is, if your a pro fighter.. you sound like one of those dorky kids who sit behind a computer and make their fantasy life come true through a forum... i never forced anything on the kid, i told him there are risks, i even added that he is too young but the choice is his at the end, not yours.... funny how you admit to "playing jesus"... thats just horrible.. im sure you feel that your better than everyone else on this forum through your own means of rationalization and you probably do mean well, but just as with fighting, execution of your means is the most important factor.. get a grip
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
ok tough guy... lol if you take the time to look at this post throughly, i did agree with redz when he said the kid was too young.. iv also taken var numerous times at 20-30mg ed and have seen great results.. (Good for you)so if your done throwing titles around, like i give a shit that your a pro fighter, that is, if your a pro fighter.(Read any thread in this section i provide if you dont believe me, and btw, im not throwing titles around buddy, im simply saying i know what im talking about cause ive been there and done what this KID is tryin to do. http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=84).
you sound like one of those dorky kids who sit behind a computer and make their fantasy life come true through a forum...(Way to be mature. Again, show some respect and read the rules.)i never forced anything on the kid, i told him there are risks, i even added that he is too young but the choice is his at the end, not yours.... funny how you admit to "playing jesus" (You said i was playing jesus, i merely quoted what you accused me of doing)... thats just horrible.. im sure you feel that your better than everyone else on this forum through your own means of rationalization and you probably do mean well, but just as with fighting, execution of your means is the most important factor.. get a grip
You are simply put immature...
You are giving low doses of a steroid that a 18 year old should not be doing. If you agree he shouldnt be doing them why would you tell him to do it if he understands the risks?
Now all youre doing is trying to pull me into a pissing match... Well sorry to tell you little man, not gonna happen...
If you dont like what i have to say, too bad. Dont post here anymore.
Ive wasted enough time on this... You have a lot of growing up to do...
Banned
if you dont like the advice i give, turn the other way... seems like you need to take your own advice... last i checked, u started this confrontation with your "you should be suspended" opinion.. we could have kept it real simple and peaceful, but you wanted to throw your weight around like your tough shit, i didn't know we had volunteer rent a cops on this forum.. so your more than welcome to run with your tail between your legs... i know it sucks to be cornered by words.. next time, you should try nicely explaining things instead of lengthening your tounge as long as you did... a little bit of kindness can go a long way.. had your fix yet, alpha male???
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
No i stand by my words...
You should be...
You clearly have not read the rules. You have no respect for fellow board members.
And you seem to keep trying to flame me.
And no, i will not turn the other way when i see advice that shouldnt be given.
I didnt start a confrontation, i simply made a statement.
Ill explain thingsthem however i please, i dont have to be nice to you.
Especially when you make ignorant statements and attempt to flame me...
Banned
your well passed flaming yourself, didn't take much work from me... its plain to see that you still dont get my point.. here let me break it down for you since u seem a little slow...
look at these two statements
"go get me my shoes or i will punch you in the face"
"please could you get my shoes for me?"
which seems more confrontational??
"Between this, and your advice, i think you need to be suspended."
NOW MY VERSION
"dude i think its against the rules to talk prices, you may wanna edit your post and dont u think the kid is too young? 18 might be a little under and i dont agree with your dosage recommendation, JUST MY OPINION THOUGH"
did u catch all that???
try it next time, it works..
if you try to walk all over me, imma stomp all over you
ohh yea, funny how im the one who "has no respect for fellow board memeber" but your the one who "doesn't have to be nice to me" your a walking contradiction, ill say it again, piss off
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
How about this?
I KNOW that price talk is against the rules. Because unlike you i actually showed the board some respect and read them. And no you may not want to edit your post, you NEED to edit that post NOW, so that Mods dont have to waste their time editing posts for people who break the rules. And this KID is entirely to young for AAS, its not very responsible of you to recommend them without first trying to convince him otherwise. By the way, i dont think that 20mgs of Var ED is enough of a dose to take.
Better?
Banned
i really dont care what you think the right amount of var is.. im talking based upon my experiances, maybe your the one who needs to check his diet and training since your not getting the same results on a lower dosage.. again, if you actually read the posts, you'll see that i have already edited the fallocy.. screw your respect, u have a twisted sense of it which is worthless.. u can speak a whole world of no's to someone who is convinced they are ready to take aas and they are still going to do it... notice how im not telling him to go do test and tren with it.. im sure we can agree that var is one of the safest steroids out there, or are you slow in that subject matter also? hey i made it clear that there are risks, i even made it clear that i feel he's young, but i didn't go bashing on the kid.. your on the losing end of this argument and you cant deal with it because you have a vauge self-justified sense of "respect" and how the world should work according to you.. u speak like you've never made a mistake in your life, theres that "jesus" in you again... dont marters usually die at the end?? if i made a mistake, why dont you let the mods deal with it, u freakin self proclaimed enforcer of the rules.. go f yourself, your worthless...
Retired VET~ If you dont know... ask me
^^^^^^^yeah but price talk is against the rules bro!!!!...and you nee to be a bit more respectful...no one here is F'ing anyone except you..Thats flaming...that can get you a suspension.....so lets let it go!!!
Senior Member
Bro, screw him! you made a mistake and talked pricing no big deal you wont get banned for that. But i wouls suggest making one good comment back when this happens and then sit back and watch them make an ass of themself!
Bro they get off on banning people on these forums. its a power thing or something.
Kind of like when a cop has his badge on!
Be carefull and screw the idiots!!!!!!
Senior Member
N, they can ban you from the word go if they want Bro! Without a suspention! Just straight to the banning.
Banned
aright big, i just cant stand the way that guy acted... im over it
New Member
@war
I already told my goals...
To be leaner and stronger at my weight class...
I can achieve the first goal by myself, but i want additional help for strength
My current lifts are
squat 200kilos
benc 120 kilos
deadlift 170 kilos
My upperbody is definetly lacking compared to my lower.
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
Youre only 90Kilos and benching 120? Thats pretty good IMO...
It doesnt sound like your upperbody is lacking...
ive got to tell you, you are way to young for AAS.
If you want, id be more than happy to look over your diet and give you a few pointers to help out...
If you are dead set in using, well discuss it after we go over your diet.
Banned
wow, now thats some helpful advice.... im impressed
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote