Winny

[Steven324]

I have heard from a couple of athletes at my school that a cycle of winny will give you moderate gains that arent too hard to keep up along with making you, as one of my more eccentric friends put it, "shredded wheat". Im just looking for something to give me more gains that what I am achieving now without getting huge. Any help?

[god-send]

age

hight

weight

body fat %

years lifting

answer all the above and we can help you out.

[Steven324]

Oh yeah Ive been reading through and I already forgot.

Age: 24

Height: 6'4"

Weight: 230

Body Fat: Not terribly high it has gone down in the past 4 months

I started lifting my sophomore year of high school but now I only do explosive workouts not much heavy weight. Mostly sprints, med balls, cardio, throwing.

[Big]

how high is not terribly high? either get it measured or post a pic so we can estimate it.

[rhino1]

Oh yeah Ive been reading through and I already forgot.

Age: 24

Height: 6'4"

Weight: 230

Body Fat: Not terribly high it has gone down in the past 4 months

I started lifting my sophomore year of high school but now I only do explosive workouts not much heavy weight. Mostly sprints, med balls, cardio, throwing.

you should try lifting weights...

[Banelord]

ya I think u have to lift weight just natural, I had done that to death, even with sup, but u get to a point where u can not gain anymore, that when the juice come in.

[Steven324]

Like I said I lift just not heavy weights. Im not looking for more muscle just working my fast twitch muscles. If you need to know I need some mph on my fastball. Haha. but Id said my body fat is around.......13? its not very good. I need to switch up my diet. I was thinking change diet and in about a month start up winny. Every week I squat, leg press, calf raise and do core exercises every other day. 3 sets of ten weight varies. Sometimes progressive sometimes not. Other than that just tubing exercises for my shoulders and I have a ball from the sharper image for wrist/forearm stabilization. Should I be lifting more? Bench press is terrible for pitchers so I was thinking maybe starting to do shoulders and back.

[rhino1]

for pitching....strong legs are essential....I would do heavy lunges....and moderatly heavy squats with a slow movement into the hole and an explosive blast upwards

[Steven324]

So.....about winny? Haha I can tell you that I am extremely well versed in the biomechanics of pitching.

[Big]

13%? now I definitely want to see a pic.

[Big]

by the way, winny only is an awful cycle choice.

[rhino1]

winny is a poor choice....dry joints wont do you well pitching

I would run Prop/NPP/Var in your situation

[Steven324]

Well I dont know anything about body fat percentages if that makes my picture THAT much more intriguing. Without getting big what would I cycle it with?

[Big]

To be honest I see no reason here for you to cycle anything. Your primary goal is to throw a ball faster?

[rhino1]

Well I dont know anything about body fat percentages if that makes my picture THAT much more intriguing. Without getting big what would I cycle it with?

prop/var/npp

[Steven324]

Ok well since you are so apt to talking down to me. I want an overall larger base of strength. With this I will be able to use my body in a more effective way to pitch. Winny affects fast twitch muscles which in turn makes you throw a baseball faster. So is there anything I could take with winny in order to make this happen? I know someone who used dbol with it but just got huge and it didnt help him much.

[Steven324]

I looked at the abbreviations page and so that pop is testosterone, what are the others.

[god-send]

too many compounds for a newb and all that pinning= nope i would say thats bad advise.

give just the anavar a go for now.

[Big]

too many compounds for a newb and all that pinning= nope i would say thats bad advise.

give just the anavar a go for now.

x2^
3 compounds and every day injections for a first cycle?
if dead set on a cycle I would say var or tbol.

[rhino1]

Test P
Fast acting Deca(will keep joints very moist)
Var

All are good for endurance athlethes and wont cause much more than cuts and slight size increase without bloating...maybe throw some clen in there too....wearing a baggy jearsy no one will know anything

[Steven324]

Hm anavar seems like a good choice. thanks a lot god send.

[rhino1]

ed injects are nothing for me...but you are right...he would have to be able to tolerate everyday pinning....forgot about that

wouldn't call it 'bad' advice...just maybe not for him

It WOULD maximize everything he is shooting for

so maybe just prop(eod) and var

[Steven324]

Okay I understand. With var can I only use it without anythying else or should I always use a test? Im new guys sorry for the problem

[rhino1]

Hm anavar seems like a good choice. thanks a lot god send.

um...i first suggested var...

[god-send]

^^^^^^^^^^ sorry dident mean to say bad advise ,its a great cycle but just not for ones 1st

[god-send]

um...i first suggested var...

[rhino1]

id say suck it up....ed injects arnt that bad with 50mg prop....

you will like your results

[Steven324]

Sorry rhino I didnt know about the abbreviation until i put two and two together you have also been a good help.

[rhino1]

im currently on 50prop/50mast/25ace and i alternate 1cc ed delt/delt/glut/glut

not sore at all

[god-send]

maybe 375mgs test e per week for 10 weeks in one shot along with var for 6-8 weeks.

just a thought and only x1 injection a week

[rhino1]

Sorry rhino I didnt know about the abbreviation until i put two and two together you have also been a good help.

my bad...i should have been more explanatory

but seriously....if you can get over ed injections...its likely the concentration will be 100mg/ml so 1/2 cc/day is all you'd have to inject and anavar is oral----

or if you made it just 2 weeks the cost would be no where near the benefits....you will be very happy with your results

[Steven324]

ed? whats that. Im sure i can handle a needle. But then again I have never tried, Im pretty good with flu shots? ahahaha

[god-send]

ed = every day injections bud.

because test prop is a short ester (fast acting) you have to inject it every day to keep blood plasma levals stable (less sides the more stable)and keep the test in you system

now test e is a long acting ester meaning it is released alot slower into the system ,meaning only x1 -x2 shots per week

[rhino1]

ed-everyday

with 1/2 cc you could us a 25gauge 1inch pin.....(draw it up with a bigger needle)

It would inject slow but i doubt you'd feel it....you will be real sore for the 1st 2 weeks but nothing too bad......

dont inject in your throwing arm or your quads

[rhino1]

id stay away from long estered....if they test you it takes longer to get out...

[Steven324]

Okay which test would be the best? Edited

[god-send]

i doubt very much that he will get tested,its to expensive

[rhino1]

Dude...if you got the balls...and i think you do...

go with
Test Prop 50mg ed
Var 40-60mg/day

[Steven324]

we dont get tested until conference tournament. I was just thinking one cycle to give me that extra...umph? and then continue my workout KNOWING i will lose some but still be at the top of my game compared to before

[god-send]

www. s p o t i n j e t i o n s . c o m

little help if your going to go with the ed shots.