Switching from prop to test e

[NEOSUP]

15 days into my 50mg ed prop . The pain is one thing but the soreness is hurting my workouts cant train as hard because of the soreness . What would be the best way to switch to test e . Just stop the prop when i start the e or taper it off or keep both . Any help will be greatly appreciated

[korsow]

Have you thought about diluting the prop a bit? Get some sterile oil and mix 1 cc of that to yer prop and see how it works..

[korsow]

sorry what I meant was.. load yer 50 mg prop then suck up1 cc of sterile oil so it will end up being 25mg/ml X 2

[NEOSUP]

I do that 50mg prop and 50mg sterile oil . Most of the times its just some soreness then other times i can berely walk . I have done all my injections to the t and still have had this problem

[NEOSUP]

I said that wrong its 100mg per ml prop so i do half ml prop half ml oil

[korsow]

k, so well if yer doing a 12 weeker, Id add the test e now, but keep the prop going for another week or two but at a lower dose maybe.. What gage do you use?

[muffin man]

hey bro i know exactly what you mean. i'm in almost the exact situation.

i posted a thread called "switching from prop to enanthate. how?" a couple days ago and these guys gave me some good info.

i'm a little bit longer into my prop cycle so i'm just gonna grin and bear it but only advice for dealing with the pain would be to get your hands on some pain killers.

before i go to workout i take as little amount of vicodin that will get me through (in my sport i've seen WAY TOO MANY get addicted to pain killers so i'm weary of it, it's no joke cuz it makes your workouts much better so can be addicting) then i take 800mg ibuprofen while keeping a portable heat pad on the area that hurts the worst until i start up. often a super hot bath/shower is needed just to get moving in the morning while the pills kick in.

i guess that's kinda obvious but hey i figure any little bit helps. good luck.

also, i got some prop with ethyl oleate in it and it is still painful but a lot less so.

[korsow]

Muffin man.. I wouldnt use ibuprofin though, it will hinder with yer gains, also , vicos sometimes have acetametaphin(sp) in em, so they are liver toxic, which isnt really a good idea to use on cycle. If anything I would run asprin, btw, taking asprin before hittin the gym will give kickass pumps!

[lovbyts]

hey bro i know exactly what you mean. i'm in almost the exact situation.

i posted a thread called "switching from prop to enanthate. how?" a couple days ago and these guys gave me some good info.

i'm a little bit longer into my prop cycle so i'm just gonna grin and bear it but only advice for dealing with the pain would be to get your hands on some pain killers.

before i go to workout i take as little amount of vicodin that will get me through (in my sport i've seen WAY TOO MANY get addicted to pain killers so i'm weary of it, it's no joke cuz it makes your workouts much better so can be addicting) then i take 800mg ibuprofen while keeping a portable heat pad on the area that hurts the worst until i start up. often a super hot bath/shower is needed just to get moving in the morning while the pills kick in.

i guess that's kinda obvious but hey i figure any little bit helps. good luck.

also, i got some prop with ethyl oleate in it and it is still painful but a lot less so.

Wow all this talk about Ibuprofen and vicodin I though you where talking about me. LOL I'm lucky I have not gotten addicted to Vicodin. I have been using it off and on for probably 10 years and mostly on for the last 4 but on good weeks I can go a week or two without any but on the bad weeks I take one or two a day. Herniated L3, L4 and L5
Most of the time I just deal with it nowadays and dont touch the stuff unless really needed. I'm getting better at using ice and heat to help more than the pain killers.

It sounds like prop would not be good for me right now. Ill stick to Test E I think.

[NEOSUP]

im using 22 gauge pins . like i said the pain is one thing but when i have to skip leg day and wait 3 or four days for the soreness to go away so i can even put pressure on my leg thats sucks. so start the e and still run the prop for say 1 to 2more weeks at what half dose?

[NEOSUP]

ok read the other thread lots of good info. is the eo easy to get, not the eo prop just the eo it self? and from were , hope that was ok to ask newb and dont want to break any of the board rules

[NEOSUP]

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[LATS60]

15 days into my 50mg ed prop . The pain is one thing but the soreness is hurting my workouts cant train as hard because of the soreness . What would be the best way to switch to test e . Just stop the prop when i start the e or taper it off or keep both . Any help will be greatly appreciated

What dose of test e are you going to run wk?

[want 2b big]

im hoping ur using the 22gauge to draw & not shoot. 22 or 23 to draw a 25 to shoot. 1" in chest, delt ,or thighs. 1.5" in glute. made that mistake with 23gauge. once istarted to use the 25 to shoot it, it hurt but not like with the 23's. only my .02

[LATS60]

im hoping ur using the 22gauge to draw & not shoot. 22 or 23 to draw a 25 to shoot. 1" in chest, delt ,or thighs. 1.5" in glute. made that mistake with 23gauge. once istarted to use the 25 to shoot it, it hurt but not like with the 23's. only my .02

^^^ this is very poor advice.
Huh, i think you have misunderstood needle gauges and lengths and why we use them, and the point of the thread.

[NEOSUP]

i use 20 g to draw and 22 x 1 for quads and delts and 22 x 1.5 for gluets. thw shot is painless its the days following . i want to stick with the prop because im getting good gains i think 11 pounds so far and im 2 and a half weeks in . was a thought to switch to the e untill i read about the oe. if i can get that i will use it to cut down my gear. so any advice were to get it would be appreciated, i looked on ar but didnt see it. i can get b12 tomorrow when i get more pins but read mixed reviews on using it. i used the last of my oil today so i need to get on this soon , not looking forward to pinning the prop straight

[vindication]

If you're using a 23g to shoot, at only 1 inch long, if you stick this all the way in a glute you may break it in your adipose tissue. Not only that, but if you inject on an angle you may not even get it into the muscle. I recommend njecting with 22g 1.5 inch pins for glutes, trying to leave a little bit of room so that there is no chance of breakage, or wasted product. Alot of the time what will happen is that the injection will o on but the absorbtion will be compromised by not having it in the muscle tissue.

[vindication]

neosup can I ask the dosage of the prop? thanks

[NEOSUP]

i do use 22x 1.5 on glutes read it again

[vindication]

I was stating that just as a general benefit to anyone wondering. not specifically to you.

[NEOSUP]

so i guess the question to ask is were do i get eo or whats the deal with b12???( read mixed reviews on using it to cut down the gear when its being pinned)

[vindication]

have you ever tried shooting the b12 with the test? that might work and reduce the pain.

[NEOSUP]

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[LATS60]

bump

Well i'm trying to help, #13...... but no ones reading my posts.

[NEOSUP]

i read it ,

i use 20 g to draw and 22 x 1 for quads and delts and 22 x 1.5 for gluets. thw shot is painless its the days following . i want to stick with the prop because im getting good gains i think 11 pounds so far and im 2 and a half weeks in . was a thought to switch to the e untill i read about the oe. if i can get that i will use it to cut down my gear. so any advice were to get it would be appreciated, i looked on ar but didnt see it. i can get b12 tomorrow when i get more pins but read mixed reviews on using it. i used the last of my oil today so i need to get on this soon , not looking forward to pinning the prop straight

[LATS60]

i read it ,

LOL
Whats the answer then?

[NEOSUP]

lol the answer is after reading about the eo i would rather get it and keep the prop instaed of switching to the e .

[LATS60]

lol the answer is after reading about the eo i would rather get it and keep the prop instaed of switching to the e .

Ok, i shan't waste anymore of my time when i could be giving advice to someone who needs it............

[NEOSUP]

Not trying to waste your time, and i do thank you .i do need advice on were to get the eo, because after reading about it i think the smart move would be to keep using the prop.