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    Goodbye Freedom...Hello Communism

    Well its official...Barak Hussein Obama is our new leader....

    Ill go ahead and say my allegiance now

    I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of Obama, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation under Obama, indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for NO ONE!

    Im SICK

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    Like it would truly have been any better under that cocksucker McCain? Americans are ****ing pathetic...just ****ing pathetic. They no longer deserve security nor freedom IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    Like it would truly have been any better under that cocksucker McCain? .
    Yes, it would have actually. This is Obama's time though. Martin Luther King would be very proud I am sure. This right here defines how far along as a nation we have come in breaking down the color barriers. Of course we have your normal bigots out there, but overall we have come a very long way! Despite what doubts you have in Obama, this is a great moment in time and be forever ingrained in black history.

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    [QUOTE=muriloninja;4284897]Like it would truly have been any better under that cocksucker McCain? Americans are ****ing pathetic...just ****ing pathetic. They no longer deserve security nor freedom IMO.[/QUOTE

    speaking of pathetic..

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    I have to agree that I am sick of picking the "lesser of 2 evils". Thats why Im neither democratic nor republican....independent conservative...

    Lol...I had a feeling you would be the first to respond...

    It's real fvcked up...too many hidden agendas....no true patriots left

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    I have to agree that I am sick of picking the "lesser of 2 evils". Thats why Im neither democratic nor republican....independent conservative...

    Lol...I had a feeling you would be the first to respond...

    It's real fvcked up...too many hidden agendas....no true patriots left

    Totally agree, Americans are now more Pu**ified than ever!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    I have to agree that I am sick of picking the "lesser of 2 evils". Thats why Im neither democratic nor republican....independent conservative...

    Lol...I had a feeling you would be the first to respond...

    It's real fvcked up...too many hidden agendas....no true patriots left
    thats how my mom put it too.. but she is more of a republican. she believes in the tax cuts they propose and not how obama wants to take her money when she was the one who worked hard in college to get the job she has now.

    my dad and i both voted democrat. i won't get into the issues any more than saying i don't see the problem in taxing the rich. over 200k a year? i know my parents could afford a few thousand more in taxes..

    i said this to one of my friends today, who is a hardcore republican; I don't see why the republicans get all up in arms over it, if mccain had won doubt the democrats would throw a temper tantrum like this.

    i know i for one would not. if mccain had won i would have been a little disappointed, but not in hysterics over how the apocalypse is coming to america now.


    the last thing, being black myself, i really don't think that black people in general feel "empowered" by this, or that they will riot over it. quite the contrary, in that the white people and many of the old fashioned people will be over the edge with emotions that a black man now runs their beloved country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post

    my dad and i both voted democrat. i won't get into the issues any more than saying i don't see the problem in taxing the rich. over 200k a year? i know my parents could afford a few thousand more in taxes..
    Because for one, $200,000/year is not even close to rich. I dont know if I could even live comfortably on that amount. That is NOT a lot of money.

    Second, do "rich" people use any greater amount of public resources that taxes pay for then poor people? No, they do not. Why should they pay a significantly higher portion of taxes to use an equal amount of public resources. Rich people dont use "more of the roads" than a person of lesser income, so the logic to tax them more is ridiculous in my opinion. Just because you think they can afford it doesn't mean they can. A person making $200,000 a year might have 3 kids in college that he's paying for, a mortgage, paying for his 3 kids cars, maybe wants to take a vacation now and then. People in that pay range are normal people like everyone else, with the same sorts of bills and obligations as a person making $50,000/year, the ony difference is the number. You are advocating wealth redistribution, which is a socialist ideology. Progressive taxation is unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Because for one, $200,000/year is not even close to rich. I dont know if I could even live comfortably on that amount. That is NOT a lot of money.

    Second, do "rich" people use any greater amount of public resources that taxes pay for then poor people? No, they do not. Why should they pay a significantly higher portion of taxes to use an equal amount of public resources. Rich people dont use "more of the roads" than a person of lesser income, so the logic to tax them more is ridiculous in my opinion. Just because you think they can afford it doesn't mean they can. A person making $200,000 a year might have 3 kids in college that he's paying for, a mortgage, paying for his 3 kids cars, maybe wants to take a vacation now and then. People in that pay range are normal people like everyone else, with the same sorts of bills and obligations as a person making $50,000/year, the ony difference is the number. You are advocating wealth redistribution, which is a socialist ideology. Progressive taxation is unfair.
    agreed...

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    out of line SORRY
    Last edited by rhino1; 11-06-2008 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Im sure all the blacks will feel very impowered....cant wait to see what kind of chaos they are going to cause

    *Speechless*

    This is what these people really think too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    *Speechless*

    This is what these people really think too....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk
    cant pull up that youtube from work...whats it about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    cant pull up that youtube from work...whats it about?
    I pulled it up fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post

    haha she'll snapped back to reality real soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    *Speechless*

    This is what these people really think too....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk
    You know what she meant. Of course she doesn't think Obama is going to pay her mortgage for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory View Post
    You know what she meant. Of course she doesn't think Obama is going to pay her mortgage for her.
    what did she mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Im sure all the blacks will feel very impowered....cant wait to see what kind of chaos they are going to cause
    Dude. What the fuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory View Post
    Dude. What the fuck?
    ....
    Last edited by rhino1; 11-06-2008 at 02:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Im sure all the blacks will feel very impowered....cant wait to see what kind of chaos they are going to cause
    Rhino you are an ignorant idiot… and impowered is spelled with an e… as in empowered. And not all blacks who are empowered cause chaos you numb nut…

    It amazes me to how some people manage to stay in the gene pool with such ignorance… Rhino in your case you should thank people who are willing to help other people out (like in socialist societies) because I doubt you could survive otherwise….


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Guy View Post
    Rhino you are an ignorant idiot… and impowered is spelled with an e… as in empowered. And not all blacks who are empowered cause chaos you numb nut…

    It amazes me to how some people manage to stay in the gene pool with such ignorance… Rhino in your case you should thank people who are willing to help other people out (like in socialist societies) because I doubt you could survive otherwise….

    ok...so you never had a typo and if you read the thread you would have seen that i said all of the ones who voted for him based on his race and their feeling that whites have oppressed them will be the ones who cause chaos....not just blacks in general...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    ok...so you never had a typo and if you read the thread you would have seen that i said all of the ones who voted for him based on his race and their feeling that whites have oppressed them will be the ones who cause chaos....not just blacks in general...
    I read the whole thread and this came out in the 5th post…. You started back peddling because someone called you on your bigotry…

    Your best bet is to edit or take out this statement because the bottom line it is just offensive and I believe based on this statement it shows your true feelings in that you believe that minorities with any kind of power will cause chaos… it’s just a racist statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Im sure all the blacks will feel very impowered....cant wait to see what kind of chaos they are going to cause

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    Can someone explain how the country will be so bad under Obama?????

    Look at the state of the country after 8 years of Bush. Our economy is in the toilet. We still don't have Osama, we ousted the only person that kept Iraq under control and the Taliban localised to Afghanastan, unemployment is at an all time high, people are refering to the current financial outlook to "another Great Depression", the murder rate in the major cities on the east coast are at all time highs, I could go on.

    Last time we had a dem in the white house we were living in prosperity. THANK GOD OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    Can someone explain how the country will be so bad under Obama?????

    Look at the state of the country after 8 years of Bush. Our economy is in the toilet. We still don't have Osama, we ousted the only person that kept Iraq under control and the Taliban localised to Afghanastan, unemployment is at an all time high, people are refering to the current financial outlook to "another Great Depression", the murder rate in the major cities on the east coast are at all time highs, I could go on.

    Last time we had a dem in the white house we were living in prosperity. THANK GOD OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!
    Um...have you heard of COMMUNISM? he is a naked Ma**ist with deep ties and communist political views...

    lol...the last time you had a dem in the office he made it possible for people to get loans for houses when they could not truly afford them...he lowered standards for people with 'lesser opportunity...you know all of those sub prime mortgages....his name was bill clinton....and it is because of him that we are now in a financial sh1t hole...it seemed like prosperity because everyone and their baby momma could get a house...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Um...have you heard of COMMUNISM? he is a naked Ma**ist with deep ties and communist political views...

    lol...the last time you had a dem in the office he made it possible for people to get loans for houses when they could not truly afford them...he lowered standards for people with 'lesser opportunity...you know all of those sub prime mortgages....his name was bill clinton....and it is because of him that we are now in a financial sh1t hole...it seemed like prosperity because everyone and their baby momma could get a house...
    The mortgage/housing crisis can trace its roots to after 2001. Also sub prime mortgages are a small piece of the puzzle. If you understand the crisis you would know this. It has more to do with property value drops and an inability to get second mortgages as a result to spend more debt on worthless items.

    The prosperity experienced during the Clinton administration increased Americans buying power and allowed more people than ever to purchase homes. After the Bush election a recession happened. Rates were dropped by the fed. People took low interest 2nd mortgages on their homes and spent money like crazy. At the same time people took variable rate mortgages to afford homes they really couldnt afford. When the rates caught up to them and the mortgages payments became too high they lost their homes. Then the market was flooded with available housing hurting values of real estate. Now peoples equity in their homes isn't there to take out second mortgages to blow money they dont have and our economy has suffered as a result. All of this began about 6 years ago. DURING THE BUSH YEARS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    The mortgage/housing crisis can trace its roots to after 2001. Also sub prime mortgages are a small piece of the puzzle. If you understand the crisis you would know this. It has more to do with property value drops and an inability to get second mortgages as a result to spend more debt on worthless items.

    The prosperity experienced during the Clinton administration increased Americans buying power and allowed more people than ever to purchase homes. After the Bush election a recession happened. Rates were dropped by the fed. People took low interest 2nd mortgages on their homes and spent money like crazy. At the same time people took variable rate mortgages to afford homes they really couldnt afford. When the rates caught up to them and the mortgages payments became too high they lost their homes. Then the market was flooded with available housing hurting values of real estate. Now peoples equity in their homes isn't there to take out second mortgages to blow money they dont have and our economy has suffered as a result. All of this began about 6 years ago. DURING THE BUSH YEARS.

    you are mis-informed........clinton was the cause clearly....the effect may have been realized 6 years ago but clinton caused it....read up young son

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    you are mis-informed........clinton was the cause clearly....the effect may have been realized 6 years ago but clinton caused it....read up young son
    Easy answer. Place blame with no follow up explanaition. ooooooooook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Thats why Im neither democratic nor republican....independent conservative...
    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    the patriot act is to protect you....just wait until you cant freely speak your mind
    Someone who calls themselves a conservative, yet thinks the Patriot Act "protects us" has a clear misunderstanding of what conservatism actually means. This kind of legislation used to be called "progressivism," yet now so called "conservatives" believe it's in our best interests for the government to have the ability to forgo the 4th amendment in the name of protection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    The mortgage/housing crisis can trace its roots to after 2001. Also sub prime mortgages are a small piece of the puzzle. If you understand the crisis you would know this. It has more to do with property value drops and an inability to get second mortgages as a result to spend more debt on worthless items.
    The culmination of poor monetary policy and bad legislation can be traced to after 2001, but all the factors that caused this were in place far before the Bush administration came into office. An expansive monetary supply was at the root of the problem, which allowed for poor legislation and lending practices that otherwise would not have been possible in the free market. The Community Reinvestment Act is a perfect example of a symptom of easy credit and it was a major contributor to current crisis. Deregulation, the other factor that liberals love to lay blame on, was actually crucial in mitigating the effects of the failure of firms like Bear Stearns and Merril Lynch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    The prosperity experienced during the Clinton administration increased Americans buying power and allowed more people than ever to purchase homes.
    Are you caliming we had benign deflation to point that CPI actually decreased? The prosperity experienced during the Clinton years had little to do with Clinton and much to do with the dot com boom. The inevitable bust of the dot com era was experienced during the Bush administration because artificial bubbles always burst, but this is a result of boom/bust cycles not presidential policies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    After the Bush election a recession happened.
    This is a common miconception that liberals make when referring to the economy. It's not at all possible for a president to have such a dramatic effect on the economy that after only 6 months in office it goes into a recession. Yes, there was a recession when Bush got into office, but it was caused by the dot com bubble bursting, which was years in the making. Currently, the housing market is bursting and we will experience a recession just as Obama enters office, would you say that his policies caused it? I don't think you will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    Rates were dropped by the fed. People took low interest 2nd mortgages on their homes and spent money like crazy. At the same time people took variable rate mortgages to afford homes they really couldnt afford. When the rates caught up to them and the mortgages payments became too high they lost their homes. Then the market was flooded with available housing hurting values of real estate. Now peoples equity in their homes isn't there to take out second mortgages to blow money they dont have and our economy has suffered as a result. All of this began about 6 years ago. DURING THE BUSH YEARS.
    True, all a result of poor legislation and lending practices made possible before the Bush administration came into office. Bush and Greenspan just made the mistake of encouraging such poor practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Um...have you heard of COMMUNISM? he is a naked Ma**ist with deep ties and communist political views...

    lol...the last time you had a dem in the office he made it possible for people to get loans for houses when they could not truly afford them...he lowered standards for people with 'lesser opportunity...you know all of those sub prime mortgages....his name was bill clinton....and it is because of him that we are now in a financial sh1t hole...it seemed like prosperity because everyone and their baby momma could get a house...


    READ the TREAD a$$ hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    READ the TREAD a$$ hole
    You blamed the sub prime mortgages and left it at that. EXPLAIN how it created this situation. That is a trick question because IT DIDNT CAUSE IT SINGLE HANDEDLY. The loss of property values and the inability for Americans to take out second mortgages to live above their means did. Read up son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod View Post
    Can someone explain how the country will be so bad under Obama?????

    Look at the state of the country after 8 years of Bush. Our economy is in the toilet. We still don't have Osama, we ousted the only person that kept Iraq under control and the Taliban localised to Afghanastan, unemployment is at an all time high, people are refering to the current financial outlook to "another Great Depression", the murder rate in the major cities on the east coast are at all time highs, I could go on.

    Last time we had a dem in the white house we were living in prosperity. THANK GOD OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!


    all this bush fault,LOL

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    what was bush supposed to do? tuck his tail?

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    im at work...its blocked

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    im at work...its blocked
    got a lady on there talking about she dont have to worry about putting gas in her car or paying her mortgage now since she helped out obama and now he will help her out.

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    O that one....LOL....what an idiot

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    i heard her on the radio this AM

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    she actually thinks obama is going to do something for the people other than make them worship him-looks like he already has her worshiping him..


    uuuughhhhh....drink the kool aid

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    she from new orleans?

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    gotta check this thread later time to watch the shield now

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    lol....but she moved to houston...now she cant decide who she wants to leech off of....she probably was the one that used here fema card to buy a gucci purse

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    Wow, Rhino, you have to be one of the most racists bigots I've had this displeasure of encountering in my life.....your posts amaze me

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