Why are black people stronger?

[verino]

Ok i am not racist at all. its just a question. please dont take it the wrong way!!. its just everytime i go to the gym a black man is always sooooo strong. like benching 375 5 times with no spot. and others are just bigger with more muscle. is it genes or what?

[Tigershark]

It is not genetics.
May just be where you are located. I live in New Hampshire so all the biggest and strongest guys at my gym are white.
When I travel home to St. Louis it is the direct opposite. So I think it just location.

[Older lifter]

New to me, never found that at any gym i have gone too.......

[Tigershark]

New to me, never found that at any gym i have gone too.......

Meaning what?

[Older lifter]

Meaning what?

Ummmmm,,,, never found that black guys are just stronger..........

[Tigershark]

Ummmmm,,,, never found that black guys are just stronger..........

Oh ok.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

lol @ this thread


A coach I knew always said Africans had an extra muscle in their legs. lol...idiot


Then it got on to the topic of why are most pro athletes African.
Then a black teacher spoke up and said something like well whites have school/education going for them. Blacks do not, so they try even harder in sports. And they went on...


I agree with location. Also, its the more dedicated. Has nothing to do with skin color.

[Voice of Reason]

Genetics from working the fields passed down to the next generations. Back in the slavery days the weaker slaves were disposed off and the stronger, bigger, and harder working slaves were breed to make more productive slaves. Sad but true...

[AdamGH]

Darker complexions can help you look more cut giving an illusion to greater strength as well.

[BgMc31]

While I don't believe blacks are stronger, we do tend to be more athleticl And actually it does have to do with race. Jimmy the Greek said it best. Many African-Americans are bred to be bigger, stronger, faster. The reason why we made great slaves was because we were able to handle workloads and heat better than whites and the Native Americans already in the 'New World'. I'll find the study somewhere but it was determined blacks carry more lean muscle mass per square inch than whites. But society also plays into it as well. The only place blacks have been 'allowed' to succeed were in athletics. Of course, that has changed, for the most part.

Now of course there are also studies out there that prove whites (and more importantly Asians) are more intelligent but of course the intelligence testings were based on western knowledge.

Now of course there are exceptions to these rules. Nordics and Eastern Eurpeans are renowned for their strength. And its a testiment to their leniage of hard life living in a extremely cold environment throughout their *********.

I'm just re-stating what I learned in college. Its a very sensative argument and people tend to get bent out of shape discussing it. As long as we can debate this civily, I think we could learn a lot about each other.

[illwillogical]

While I don't believe blacks are stronger, we do tend to be more athleticl And actually it does have to do with race. Jimmy the Greek said it best. Many African-Americans are bred to be bigger, stronger, faster. The reason why we made great slaves was because we were able to handle workloads and heat better than whites and the Native Americans already in the 'New World'. I'll find the study somewhere but it was determined blacks carry more lean muscle mass per square inch than whites. But society also plays into it as well. The only place blacks have been 'allowed' to succeed were in athletics. Of course, that has changed, for the most part.

Now of course there are also studies out there that prove whites (and more importantly Asians) are more intelligent but of course the intelligence testings were based on western knowledge.

Now of course there are exceptions to these rules. Nordics and Eastern Eurpeans are renowned for their strength. And its a testiment to their leniage of hard life living in a extremely cold environment throughout their *********.

I'm just re-stating what I learned in college. Its a very sensative argument and people tend to get bent out of shape discussing it. As long as we can debate this civily, I think we could learn a lot about each other.

I like this guy, he has some sense, a very factual and unbiased view!

[FireGuy]

Genetics from working the fields passed down to the next generations. Back in the slavery days the weaker slaves were disposed off and the stronger, bigger, and harder working slaves were breed to make more productive slaves. Sad but true...

Saw a whole report on this and they attributed it to the blacks with the highest testosterone levels survived. Per the study they found the average African American male had higher testosterone levels than the average caucasion. Hence more strength hence the higher probability of prostate issues and other high test level health issues.

[rhino1]

Saw a whole report on this and they attributed it to the blacks with the highest testosterone levels survived. Per the study they found the average African American male had higher testosterone levels than the average caucasion. Hence more strength hence the higher probability of prostate issues and other high test level health issues.

It probably didn't help caucasions to sit on their asses while the slaves did all the work either...So id go with just an underlying amped up drive...

[DSM4Life]

[verino]

Saw a whole report on this and they attributed it to the blacks with the highest testosterone levels survived. Per the study they found the average African American male had higher testosterone levels than the average caucasion. Hence more strength hence the higher probability of prostate issues and other high test level health issues.

thats what i was thinking...there had to be something with higher testosterone.

[MuscleScience]

LOL... At all the geneticist in here.

[WARMachine]

While I don't believe blacks are stronger, we do tend to be more athleticl And actually it does have to do with race. Jimmy the Greek said it best. Many African-Americans are bred to be bigger, stronger, faster. The reason why we made great slaves was because we were able to handle workloads and heat better than whites and the Native Americans already in the 'New World'. I'll find the study somewhere but it was determined blacks carry more lean muscle mass per square inch than whites. But society also plays into it as well. The only place blacks have been 'allowed' to succeed were in athletics. Of course, that has changed, for the most part.

Now of course there are also studies out there that prove whites (and more importantly Asians) are more intelligent but of course the intelligence testings were based on western knowledge.

Now of course there are exceptions to these rules. Nordics and Eastern Eurpeans are renowned for their strength. And its a testiment to their leniage of hard life living in a extremely cold environment throughout their *********.

I'm just re-stating what I learned in college. Its a very sensative argument and people tend to get bent out of shape discussing it. As long as we can debate this civily, I think we could learn a lot about each other.

Very well put my friend!

It seems to be this way mostly in America. Native Africans do not look the same as African-Americans in my experience.

But blacks in my country of Brazil, do have simular builds to those in America.

This has lead me to believe that in fact there genes have been altered due to the breeding that occured when their race was used in the slave trade.

Simular situation with Northern Italians and Southern Italians.

The gene pool was forever changed when the Moors invaded Spain and Italy.

[rhino1]

Very well put my friend!

It seems to be this way mostly in America. Native Africans do not look the same as African-Americans in my experience.

But blacks in my country of Brazil, do have simular builds to those in America.

This has lead me to believe that in fact there genes have been altered due to the breeding that occured when their race was used in the slave trade.

Simular situation with Northern Italians and Southern Italians.

The gene pool was forever changed when the Moors invaded Spain and Italy.

Brazilian blacks are very big and muscular...the one's i have seen...and the strenght...even in the average person...leverage, muscle/bone composition....genetically superior...

I think constant hard labor could be attributed to a adaptation over a long period of time

[Voice of Reason]

BgMc31 basically said what I said, but with his fancy college wording.

Steal my thunder again BgMc31...

[Coop77]

I sometimes work out in a gym in a very black part of town and I've noticed that too. There do seem to be a lot of naturally big strong guys of african descent. I saw a guy come in and bench 225 for 30 reps and he said he barely even works out.

I hate to make a statement that sounds racist, but I think it's based on historical fact, that the ancestors of African Americans were basically bred for physical labor on plantations. You notice that the world's best athletes are blacks from the Americas, and other places that imported African slave labor. You don't see that many great athletes coming out of Africa. It's kind of ironic.

[rhino1]

I sometimes work out in a gym in a very black part of town and I've noticed that too. There do seem to be a lot of naturally big strong guys of african descent. I saw a guy come in and bench 225 for 30 reps and he said he barely even works out.

I hate to make a statement that sounds racist, but I think it's based on historical fact, that the ancestors of African Americans were basically bred for physical labor on plantations. You notice that the world's best athletes are blacks from the Americas, and other places that imported African slave labor. You don't see that many great athletes coming out of Africa. It's kind of ironic.

other than long distance runners....

But notice how strong caucasions are from places like russia....like those boxers...cant remember their names...they are brothers...

[jnewton86]

why ask the question, its more point of view imo. ill leave it at that, im sure this thread is being closely watched

[rhino1]

why ask the question, its more point of view imo. ill leave it at that, im sure this thread is being closely watched

yea...its being closely watched...WHY?

im sure it overall averages out almost equally...

All i know...Im caucasion...and Im a strong mother fvcker

[WOLFCRAFT]

I'm from St. Louis too, and yeah... every gym I've been to around here, the black guys are the biggest and strongest dudes in the gym.
I don't know how or why, but I think it's gotta just be something with how they're set up.

[JDawg1536]

The term "black", doesn't give much information about any particular group. There are around 100,000 genes that determine human makeup and only up to 6 determine skin color. Africans from different countries in Africa are more unlike each other than they are different from caucasians. If you are talking about black Americans, it's most likely a social issue than difference in genetics. The black subculture in America places a strong emphasis on physical success and athletic ability, valued highly by both black men and women. Why are Russians the best chess players in the world, are they just that much smarterer than us?

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have trained various people coming from different ethnic groups. Overall black perople tend to have better genetics than whites for growing muscle mass but there are plenty of black people that do not have good genetics.

At the present the strongest guy I train is from Poland and he is not taking steroids. He weighs 250 lbs and I have him up to doing dips for triceps with 125 lbs strapped on him. He's on his way to becoming a monster.

[Edgar]

Earl Campbell.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tfJybuzkMT0

Walter Payton
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAeo4ZqHC2c

[rockinred]

I feel that african americans are a more athletic race in terms of speed agility combo... I agree with ronnie on his comments... I wouldn't go as far as saying they are strongest though... I think many races are all built differently with different physical capabilities... Look at Asians, they are primarily smaller boned people... hispanics are the same, smaller boned... black people are more large boned... look at any sport were size is a huge factor... i don't think there is anything racial about understanding that certain races have different characteristics of one sort or another.

I will hold off on saying that they are the strongest.... look at world strong man competition.. there are many whites from the norwegian hemisphere that are very big and strong...

there are many dynamics to all of this and that is what makes everyone unique and the world of people amazing...

take the asians athletic ability in gymnastics... it is unsurpassed.. we can go on and on about the differences of each races when it comes to physical statures and capabilities... it is awesome!!!

[sizerp]

You jealous that lil black kid got a bigger wanker than joo and me combined?

[MuscleScience]

still....LOL....at all the geneticist in here.

[JDawg1536]

I feel that african americans are a more athletic race in terms of speed agility combo... I agree with ronnie on his comments... I wouldn't go as far as saying they are strongest though... I think many races are all built differently with different physical capabilities... Look at Asians, they are primarily smaller boned people... hispanics are the same, smaller boned... black people are more large boned... look at any sport were size is a huge factor... i don't think there is anything racial about understanding that certain races have different characteristics of one sort or another.

I will hold off on saying that they are the strongest.... look at world strong man competition.. there are many whites from the norwegian hemisphere that are very big and strong...

there are many dynamics to all of this and that is what makes everyone unique and the world of people amazing...

take the asians athletic ability in gymnastics... it is unsurpassed.. we can go on and on about the differences of each races when it comes to physical statures and capabilities... it is awesome!!!

I'm not trying to knock what you are saying, because genetic makeup may very well have an influence on athletic performance. But, I think its much more a result of social and cultural influence than anything else. Kenyans make up .0005% of the world population, yet they win about 40% of international distance-running competitions. If they are so physically gifted in the department of endurance, why are they not dominating the Tour De France, Iron Man, etc.... If blacks are so good at jumping, why do they not dominate the high jump and pole vault? If they are so much stronger, where is their dominance in the shot-put, discus, javelin, and weight lifting events? If specific forms of music, art, dance, and comedy have emerged from the black subculture, is it wrong to assume that the representation of blacks in basketball is a result of the influence of culture and society as well? Additionally, take a sport like Judo. Japanese Americans make up .3% of the US population, yet they make up more than 1/5th of top competitors in Judo. Certainly a sport that requires speed, strength, and power such as a martial art would be dominated by blacks as well, right?


Take a look at the list of competitors in this video, you may recognize a name or two.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuj-R9DFMmY

[MuscleScience]

i'm not trying to knock what you are saying, because genetic makeup may very well have an influence on athletic performance. But, i think its much more a result of social and cultural influence than anything else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuj-r9dfmmy

bingo!!!!!

[BgMc31]

The term "black", doesn't give much information about any particular group. There are around 100,000 genes that determine human makeup and only up to 6 determine skin color. Africans from different countries in Africa are more unlike each other than they are different from caucasians. If you are talking about black Americans, it's most likely a social issue than difference in genetics. The black subculture in America places a strong emphasis on physical success and athletic ability, valued highly by both black men and women. Why are Russians the best chess players in the world, are they just that much smarterer than us?

Agreed, Africa is a tremendously large country...I mean continent, lol! With a tremendous amount of genetic diversificcation. I think what people here are referring to are the typical descendants of African slaves. 1st we must unerstand that the majority of the slave trade (80%) went to central and south America, and the Carribean. That I why Brazil has the largest African population in the western hemisphere. We then must also recognize where the majority of slaves came from in Africa. Most came from what is now Nigeria, and the Niger Valley. Current and former athletes from those areas (mostly football players, basketball players, and boxers) shows the level of athleticism and musculature indicative of peoples of those areas. Many blacks in the Americas and the Carribean still possess those traits.

Most distance runners are from East Africa and generally smaller in stature than west Africans.

[BgMc31]

BgMc31 basically said what I said, but with his fancy college wording.

Steal my thunder again BgMc31...

didn't mean to steal your thunder brotha! hahahahaha!

[rockinred]

I'm not trying to knock what you are saying, because genetic makeup may very well have an influence on athletic performance. But, I think its much more a result of social and cultural influence than anything else. Kenyans make up .0005% of the world population, yet they win about 40% of international distance-running competitions. If they are so physically gifted in the department of endurance, why are they not dominating the Tour De France, Iron Man, etc.... If blacks are so good at jumping, why do they not dominate the high jump and pole vault? If they are so much stronger, where is their dominance in the shot-put, discus, javelin, and weight lifting events? If specific forms of music, art, dance, and comedy have emerged from the black subculture, is it wrong to assume that the representation of blacks in basketball is a result of the influence of culture and society as well? Additionally, take a sport like Judo. Japanese Americans make up .3% of the US population, yet they make up more than 1/5th of top competitors in Judo. Certainly a sport that requires speed, strength, and power such as a martial art would be dominated by blacks as well, right?


Take a look at the list of competitors in this video, you may recognize a name or two.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuj-R9DFMmY

I am not trying to knock what you and Muscle Science are saying either... I agree the social and cultural influence play a big role too... but you can't rule out genetics either... I think all races have been a slave before... you don't see the same results due to those factors only... would you believe that if you were put in the same conditions as Michael Jordon you would accomplish the same??? obviosly not, and it is a balance between the two.. as far as Kenyans being the same as people from Congo, it is not the same... as well as many others from different parts of the continent's throughout the world...

In fact i agree with the majority of what everyone has posted on this thread.. all have good points and good angles... BgMc pointed out some good stuff too as well as you...

In reality it is very complicated... but when you have an ethnic group that carry the same characteristics... it is because they continue to to stay together as a whole in the copulating process..

no one can deny that a person who is bigger boned due to their genetic makeup and culture does not have an advantage in certain things related to physical stregnth than a person who is smaller boned due to their genetic makeup or if it suits you better due to the tribe or area they are from... A good example would be heavy weight boxing.. look at the dominance in the different weight classes....

that is all I am saying... it means nothing more than meaning everyone is different due to where they are from.

[MuscleScience]

I am not trying to knock what you and Muscle Science are saying either... I agree the social and cultural influence play a big role too... but you can't rule out genetics either... I think all races have been a slave before... you don't see the same results due to those factors only... would you believe that if you were put in the same conditions as Michael Jordon you would accomplish the same??? obviosly not, and it is a balance between the two.. as far as Kenyans being the same as people from Congo, it is not the same... as well as many others from different parts of the continent's throughout the world...

In fact i agree with the majority of what everyone has posted on this thread.. all have good points and good angles... BgMc pointed out some good stuff too as well as you...

In reality it is very complicated... but when you have an ethnic group that carry the same characteristics... it is because they continue to to stay together as a whole in the copulating process..

no one can deny that a person who is bigger boned due to their genetic makeup and culture does not have an advantage in certain things related to physical stregnth than a person who is smaller boned due to their genetic makeup or if it suits you better due to the tribe or area they are from... A good example would be heavy weight boxing.. look at the dominance in the different weight classes....

that is all I am saying... it means nothing more than meaning everyone is different due to where they are from.

So what about hockey, are blacks not genetically gifted enough to skate around and bash each other with sticks and drink Labates Blue after the game...Gross.....

[BgMc31]

So what about hockey, are blacks not genetically gifted enough to skate around and bash each other with sticks and drink Labates Blue after the game...Gross.....

You can't bring up different sports because of lack of access to those sports. Hockey isn't popular in areas with large african americans populations. Sports like lacross, rugby, tennis, gold, etc., are all very expensive sports and not popular with African Americans.

[BgMc31]

There is no need to preface every thread concerning blacks with "I'm not prejudice or racists". LoL!

We are all here to learn from each other. As a Black man, I cannot speak for all Blacks. But I have no problem trying to help close the gaps of misunderstanding that exist between races.

The vast majority of the members here are genuinely seeking knowledge. I respect that and don't take questions like this offensively.

[Squatman51]

i don't know about strength, but when it comes to agility i thinks blacks have an edge...my question is why is every running back, corner, and nearly every wide receiver of black decent??? ur telling me that one white guy cannot be a running back how is that?

[Tony Q]

Africa is not a country. Why is it that people say blacks are better athletes but when someone brings up hockey, then it's all about location. Why is it ok to say blacks are better athletes but racist to say whites are more intelligent. Virtually every signifigant invention, discovery vaccine etc came from Europeans. Better athletes? How about gymnastics, hockey, bicycling, swimming etc etc.. Stronger? you know very little about strength sports such as powerlifting and strongman. Why do people complain that coaching in the Nba doesnt reflect the racial makeup of society and its because of racism but the racial makeup of the players doesnt reflect society? Cant have it both ways..