short cycle b4 jail

[in2shape]

ill get straight to it .... im facing 6 months jail at end of march so i have between now and then to run a cycle plus pct (12 weeks total)..

question is what cycle could i run between now and then i have 12 weeks total time ..... this will be my 1st cycle .... i have test e 2 x 10mls @ 250 mg/ml and was going to run this with dbol kickstart and var at end for 10-12 weeks pct nolva 20/20/20/20 but now been hit with this curve ball (i.e. jail) im stumped , and realise i cant do this cycle anymore .....

maybe the dreaded dbol only cycle say 6-8 weeks 40mg/ed? that gives me 4 weeks of pct also ? or var 6-8 weeks @ 60mg/ed plus pct 4 weeks ? or could i use my test e some how ? im guessing no ....

thanks fellas helps appreciated

oh yeah i can still train albeit limitedly , machine chest press, lat pd, seated row , chins , push ups , underhand or reverse grip chins 4 bi's , dips 4 trys , body weight squats , lunges, calf raises etc , possibly a shoulder press if not do handstands against wall as a press can shrug on chest press machine as its the horizontal type etc ....

jail food is shit as i just did 2 weeks but can buy tuna eggs protein powder in there , reason i added this is to show i can eat reasonably well inside still train limitedly tryin to give as much info as possible here .....

thanks again

[MalibuD]

I personally would go with a short ester like prop. That away its in your system and working faster and then its out faster also. IMO

[sitries]

if you have 6or 7weeks then you can still runt the test. just run it at a high er dose so it kicks it a bit quicker. like 100mg for the 1st 2 weeks and then down to 750mg for the rest,. its not really ideal though for a 1st cycle!! but if your going to then thats what id do . id also run dbol for 4weeks at the start. then youl start pct on week 8 or 9, which wilol give you a 3or 4 week pct. id advise nolva and clomiod for this!

[jstraw428]

if you have 6or 7weeks then you can still runt the test. just run it at a high er dose so it kicks it a bit quicker. like 100mg for the 1st 2 weeks and then down to 750mg for the rest,. its not really ideal though for a 1st cycle!! but if your going to then thats what id do . id also run dbol for 4weeks at the start. then youl start pct on week 8 or 9, which wilol give you a 3or 4 week pct. id advise nolva and clomiod for this!

Are you really suggesting him do 1000mg then bump down to 750mg for a 1st cycle...


Dont listen to shitty advice like this....good god....

[in2shape]

I personally would go with a short ester like prop. That away its in your system and working faster and then its out faster also. IMO

good advice , unfortunately cant get prop

yeah do it ull be good id run prop though or run some regular test for 12 weeks jsut start now

if i do that 12 weeks wont be able to do pct

if you have 6or 7weeks then you can still runt the test. just run it at a high er dose so it kicks it a bit quicker. like 100mg for the 1st 2 weeks and then down to 750mg for the rest,. its not really ideal though for a 1st cycle!! but if your going to then thats what id do . id also run dbol for 4weeks at the start. then youl start pct on week 8 or 9, which wilol give you a 3or 4 week pct. id advise nolva and clomiod

as above bro cant get prop , what about a big front load of the test e i have ? prob not ?

[in2shape]

Guys, remember it is his first cycle....no need to run some crazy numbers...

Keep it simple bro...

1-8 500mg test e
1-4 25mg dbol ed

9-12 pct

I know everyone says you need two weeks from your last test e shot, but come on, is it really gonna hurt to start a week early....

this i can do is 8 weeks long enough 4 the test e tho ? i have read on here and other boards of ppl doin 8 weeks and still gaining well .....

Are you really suggesting him do 1000mg then bump down to 750mg for a 1st cycle...


Dont listen to shitty advice like this....good god....

thanks bro !!!!!

[Deltasaurus]

yeah do it ull be good id run prop though or run some regular test for 12 weeks jsut start now

[jstraw428]

Guys, remember it is his first cycle....no need to run some crazy numbers...

Keep it simple bro...

1-8 500mg test e
1-4 25mg dbol ed

9-12 pct

I know everyone says you need two weeks from your last test e shot, but come on, is it really gonna hurt to start a week early....

[jimmyinkedup]

Guys, remember it is his first cycle....no need to run some crazy numbers...

Keep it simple bro...

1-8 500mg test e
1-4 25mg dbol ed

9-12 pct

I know everyone says you need two weeks from your last test e shot, but come on, is it really gonna hurt to start a week early....

yes b/c with test levels as high as they will be starting after only 1 week you have no chance of starting up natty test production...the point of pct ...therefore you are really only getting 3 weeks of pct - the first week is a waste and pct should be run at least 4 weeks.

[jstraw428]

yes b/c with test levels as high as they will be starting after only 1 week you have no chance of starting up natty test production...the point of pct ...therefore you are really only getting 3 weeks of pct - the first week is a waste and pct should be run at least 4 weeks.

yes, but he is on a shortened schedule, and like i said....it wouldnt hurt anything...if he started early....

[dece870717]

yes, but he is on a shortened schedule, and like i said....it wouldnt hurt anything...if he started early....

I agree. I used to start PCT 2 weeks after last test e shot and then tried doing just 1 week wait in later cycles and I think it works a lot better. Its better to get that build up of the PCT drugs in your system and ready to work than waiting till your test levels are basically at zero and you are at a very catabolic state and then start PCT.

[jimmyinkedup]

I agree. I used to start PCT 2 weeks after last test e shot and then tried doing just 1 week wait in later cycles and I think it works a lot better. Its better to get that build up of the PCT drugs in your system and ready to work than waiting till your test levels are basically at zero and you are at a very catabolic state and then start PCT.

im glad this works for you ....your reasoning makes zero sense orals like clomid & nolva ..they are immediately in system and dont build up as 1/2 life is so short. Your test levels arent at zero at the end of 2 weeks btw...everyone is diff and if this works for you cool ..but it isnt working for the reasons you stated ... how long do you run pct?

[rhino1]

he should do no more than 100mg eod prop...and im not sure he could handle that...

[in2shape]

he should do no more than 100mg eod prop...and im not sure he could handle that...

no prop

[rhino1]

first cycle...didnt see that

[rhino1]

500/wk enanth and 25-50 mg dbol will do like j said...

[jstraw428]

500/wk enanth and 25-50 mg dbol will do like j said...

Well, thank your sir....i agree 100%......lol

[in2shape]

500/wk enanth and 25-50 mg dbol will do like j said...

Yes bro, 8 weeks is long enough for the test E(ideally 10-12 weeks), but with a small kikstart of 25mg of dbol, you should gain nicely.....it will also be an easy cycle to PCT from....

and no problem bro.....trying to help out the best i can...higher dosages are not always the answer, especially for a first time...

im gonna start this above cycle appreciate the good help fellas ..after pct ive read alot of blokes go a bit wussy a bit feminine like .... considering where im going cant have any of this, any advice ? eat well , train hard, sleep etc just cant be moody agro feminine like etc

[jstraw428]

Yes bro, 8 weeks is long enough for the test E(ideally 10-12 weeks), but with a small kikstart of 25mg of dbol, you should gain nicely.....it will also be an easy cycle to PCT from....

and no problem bro.....trying to help out the best i can...higher dosages are not always the answer, especially for a first time...

[jstraw428]

actually more people experience these feminine sides during pct.....some people react to the clomid in adverse ways....

For example, i have a powerlifting buddy, who is like 305lbs, and when he takes clomid, he cries at sad commercials on the tv....clomid can just make some men more hormonal, like a girl...

[T_Own]

why don't you just wait 6 months and do it when you get out?

[dece870717]

I'd frontload with the Test E 1,400mg the first week. Then do 500mg/week after that. If you have 2x10ml of it that should work perfectly for 8 weeks.

[in2shape]

why don't you just wait 6 months and do it when you get out?

a bit of extra size doesnt go astray eh?! catch my drift .... i here u tho

I'd frontload with the Test E 1,400mg the first week. Then do 500mg/week after that. If you have 2x10ml of it that should work perfectly for 8 weeks.

i assume twice a week with those amounts yeah? that would work out well , good idea

[dece870717]

a bit of extra size doesnt go astray eh?! catch my drift .... i here u tho

i assume twice a week with those amounts yeah? that would work out well , good idea

Ya twice a week is perfect for the 500mg/week part. For the frontload I would do 3cc's Monday in one glute, Wednesday do 3cc's in the other glute and then the other 1cc you could do on Friday into the delt.

[jstraw428]

Ya twice a week is perfect for the 500mg/week part. For the frontload I would do 3cc's Monday in one glute, Wednesday do 3cc's in the other glute and then the other 1cc you could do on Friday into the delt.

I am always a bit wary of frontloading on the first cycle...plus he has the dbol...but either way would be fine...

1 frontload 1000mg
2-8 500mg test e
1-4 25mg dbol..

pct...

[Matt]

Might sound mad this ( thats why im called mad matt) but cant you finish your pct in jail, im told it may be possible to in the UK.

[Voice of Reason]

Why you going to jail?

...

[in2shape]

Why you going to jail?

kidnap , robbery with weapon, manace money 50k + , manslaughter , carjack ....... you asked

[Matt]

kidnap , robbery with weapon, manace money 50k + , manslaughter , carjack ....... you asked

6 months for all that??

[in2shape]

6 months for all that??

was joking bro lol that would be more like 60 years !!!! he just joined in rather than offering advice etc just bam what did you do , know what i mean .... maybe its the jail in me but generally you dont ask .. building a little rapor goes along way ...

[in2shape]

so basically the consensus is prop ....

Can i do test e 7 weeks with front load , wait 2 weeks then nolva 40/20/20?

Just dont want to be an emotional wreck

[jstraw428]

was joking bro lol that would be more like 60 years !!!! he just joined in rather than offering advice etc just bam what did you do , know what i mean .... maybe its the jail in me but generally you dont ask .. building a little rapor goes along way ...

I agree with you there.....You just dont ask a man, what he has been or is in jail for.....also, didnt you know, everyone you talk to in jail, is INNOCENT...they was framed...

[PrideFEDOR]

was joking bro lol that would be more like 60 years !!!! he just joined in rather than offering advice etc just bam what did you do , know what i mean .... maybe its the jail in me but generally you dont ask .. building a little rapor goes along way ...

We're not in jail here dude. If he wants to ask u if u were banged in your corn hole in shower he can do that. We're no inmates here son. U ask for advice and u treat the bros who give u that advice with your jail attidude? are u nuts ?
And please dont try to play a hardcore criminal here . HE's building a little rapor. Muscles dont mean anything in jail. If u think u'll intimidate people over there by running a single cycle u wrong. U'll gain more by learning how to fight and come on now, its a vocation where u going. 6 months u'll do in a county, not even a real penetentiary. Prolly will be working in a house gang slinging plastic trays, play cards and work out in ur free time. Anyone here can do 6 months standing on their ... The way u answered to the bro was disrespectful,im sorry but I had to say that!

[jimmyinkedup]

yes, but he is on a shortened schedule, and like i said....it wouldnt hurt anything...if he started early....


^^^no it would just be a waste and not an effective pct regimen and he wouldnt be recovered and hed quickly start to lose his gains and be possibly an emotional mess . Id stop cycle week earlier and try to get in full pct ...or simply go the prop route ..nothing like going to jail a big mofo thats a sniveling bitch cause his hormones are still fvcked..
actually id go with prop start pct 3days post last inject and get 4-5 weeks solid pct...JMO

[in2shape]

yes, but he is on a shortened schedule, and like i said....it wouldnt hurt anything...if he started early....


^^^no it would just be a waste and not an effective pct regimen and he wouldnt be recovered and hed quickly start to lose his gains and be possibly an emotional mess . Id stop cycle week earlier and try to get in full pct ...or simply go the prop route ..nothing like going to jail a big mofo thats a sniveling bitch cause his hormones are still fvcked..
actually id go with prop start pct 3days post last inject and get 4-5 weeks solid pct...JMO

nothing like going to jail a big mofo thats a sniveling bitch cause his hormones are still fvcked.. this is my main concern ... what if i did the test e 7 weeks wait 2 weeks then 40/20/20 nolva ?

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ only possible pct choice id start a week early is aromasin as it takes a week to establish steady levels (its an AI) and id run it for 5 weeks total last 4 with nolvadex

[T_Own]

7 is getting very short especially if you don't front load.

theres more to being big in jail (i'd imagine) if you don't know people, they still won't show you much respect, especially if they come at your and your like a girl in big body. not saying thats you, just making a point.

and 6 months later you'll come out the same size you are now with all that jail food lol. even with your supplementing it with tuna and what not

[in2shape]

7 is getting very short especially if you don't front load.

theres more to being big in jail (i'd imagine) if you don't know people, they still won't show you much respect, especially if they come at your and your like a girl in big body. not saying thats you, just making a point.

and 6 months later you'll come out the same size you are now with all that jail food lol. even with your supplementing it with tuna and what not

will do front load 7 is short tho .... there is a hell of alot more than size ears open eyes open and ready to go at any time over anything is a start ..... so your saying ill lose all gains ??? jail diet will look like this

meal 1
weetbix milk protein shake 2 x scoops

meal 2
shake 2x scoops

meal 3
some sort of meat sand which
will add 2 x tins tuna here

meal4
4 eggs scrambled

meal5
shake

meal6

some sort of meat and veg

meal7
shake

alot of shakes for extra protein needed 4 training whilst in there multinvitamin also

[T_Own]

will do front load 7 is short tho .... there is a hell of alot more than size ears open eyes open and ready to go at any time over anything is a start ..... so your saying ill lose all gains ??? jail diet will look like this

meal 1
weetbix milk protein shake 2 x scoops

meal 2
shake 2x scoops

meal 3
some sort of meat sand which
will add 2 x tins tuna here

meal4
4 eggs scrambled

meal5
shake

meal6

some sort of meat and veg

meal7
shake

alot of shakes for extra protein needed 4 training whilst in there multinvitamin also

thats still pretty terrible. 4-5 shakes isn't gonna make up for real food. also, no complex carbs or pretty much any carbs at all, and whatever fat they have in the food doesn't help

i don't know how much jail time you've done (i've never been arrested or anything) so i can't speak from experience but it seems like you plan to go big or go home (not literally home) i would think it would be better to stay cool, brush off people if they start something, but not attract attention by "ready to go at any time over anything "

[in2shape]

thats still pretty terrible. 4-5 shakes isn't gonna make up for real food. also, no complex carbs or pretty much any carbs at all, and whatever fat they have in the food doesn't help

i don't know how much jail time you've done (i've never been arrested or anything) so i can't speak from experience but it seems like you plan to go big or go home (not literally home) i would think it would be better to stay cool, brush off people if they start something, but not attract attention by "ready to go at any time over anything "

lol bro i dont walk around pickin fights or looking for them i keep to myself and do "my" time you meet a few ppl have a chat maybe play cards basketball ping pong etc eat train sleep thats it , and ive always said your more of a man to walk away from a fight than you are to start one but in some cases my friend inside you just arent given a chance when its go time its go !