Burned by my own stupidity

[heaven_lee]

Need your help boys. I was planning on doing a cycle of Var this past year but plans changed. Edited
Ok well, I have done some research and I'm looking for something I can buy at a store. Other than clen and ephedrine (for losing weight ) I want to know if there is anything out there that I can use that has somewhat similar effect as Anavar. I know that anything you couldlegaly buy wouldn't come close but I feel I am in nuetral and I am not making any positive gains.

If anyone has any idea please share, I'm opened to any suggestions.

[C-MaN]

Its amazing how many people will take advantage of you just to make some money. What are your stats ? age,weight,height,years training, bf%

[Phate]

Need your help boys. I was planning on doing a cycle of Var this past year but plans changed. Edited
Ok well, I have done some research and I'm looking for something I can buy at a store. Other than clen and ephedrine (for losing weight ) I want to know if there is anything out there that I can use that has somewhat similar effect as Anavar. I know that anything you couldlegaly buy wouldn't come close but I feel I am in nuetral and I am not making any positive gains.
you won't be able to find anything that will have similar benefits at anywhere close to the same cost
If anyone has any idea please share, I'm opened to any suggestions.

i would recommend posting your diet for critique, some tweeks there could do you some good

also listing some stats would be helpful

age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
specific goals


we'll help you any way we can, but sadly most of the supplements out there are crap so

[FireGuy]

The above are some questions that should be answered. But... to answer your question you might look into DHEA. It's not nearly as strong as var but it is legal and if you use enough of it you might get some results. I know some Figure girls who got some decent results from it.

[*RAGE*]

The above are some questions that should be answered. But... to answer your question you might look into DHEA. It's not nearly as strong as var but it is legal and if you use enough of it you might get some results. I know some Figure girls who got some decent results from it.

I have seen this as well....

[heaven_lee]

im 5'2", 110 lbs
working out for over 4 years
cardio 1 hour a day
free weights every other day

morning:
oatmeal, 4 egg whites toast

mid am
fruit or yogurt

lunch
rice, chicken, or tuna on wheat toast

dinner
chicken, veggies, or turkey or fish with potato

and a few protien shakes throughout the day and maybe a protienbar here and there

[Rugger02]

Looks like you make good food choices, but the key is to make sure your calories, carbs, fat and protein are where they need to be.
Also being consistent is very important for your diet, that way you can try different things and if you see better results from eating more or less of something, you'll know exactly why and what it was from.

I know this isn't exactly an answer to your question, but I would recommend starting a thread in teh diet forum and we can create a diet specially designed for you.

[MMArmour]

haha i love that when its a guy posting up a diet the replies are usually "theres your problem right there fa**ot!" type stuff. hahaha hilarious! Best of luck tho to the OP.

[redz]

"theres your problem right there fa**ot!"

I think that might be a slight exageration.

Anyways with the diet over all good choices but watch out for those protein bars alot of them are loaded with sugar.

[MMArmour]

Admittedly.

[heaven_lee]

I think that might be a slight exageration.

Anyways with the diet over all good choices but watch out for those protein bars alot of them are loaded with sugar.

Thanks for input guys. I know protien bars have a ton of calories. I should have said health food bars. I rarely eat an actual protien bar, more like wheat grain bars and rice/fruit bars. Theyre gross but they help

[spywizard]

i'd say you aren't getting enough fats, that is if you are doing what you have listed..

[heaven_lee]

i'd say you aren't getting enough fats, that is if you are doing what you have listed..

What would you consider fats? Red meat, Pork ect?

[heaven_lee]

i would recommend posting your diet for critique, some tweeks there could do you some good

also listing some stats would be helpful

age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
specific goals


we'll help you any way we can, but sadly most of the supplements out there are crap so

What did you mean when you said there isnt anything even close to the same cost? If there is something available over the counter but it's a little pricey and works well I'm more than willing to give it a shot.

[heaven_lee]

My original post was edited, did i say something I wasn't supposed to? I didn't name any of the suppliers names...or did I?

[Phate]

What would you consider fats? Red meat, Pork ect?

what he means are healthy fats, which can be found in olive oil(uncooked), nuts, fish oil, flax oil, natty peanut butter, etcc...., you actually need to eat healthy fats to lose fat, weird idea huh?

What did you mean when you said there isnt anything even close to the same cost? If there is something available over the counter but it's a little pricey and works well I'm more than willing to give it a shot.

i can't mention price, but i can get several months worth of clen, ephedra etc.. for the price of a month of an OTC fat burner, that's what i meant

My original post was edited, did i say something I wasn't supposed to? I didn't name any of the suppliers names...or did I?

you can pm me the original post or what was edited and i'll tell you what was wrong, or you can ask spywizard, i bet he was the one that edited it

[heaven_lee]

what he means are healthy fats, which can be found in olive oil(uncooked), nuts, fish oil, flax oil, natty peanut butter, etcc...., you actually need to eat healthy fats to lose fat, weird idea huh?



i can't mention price, but i can get several months worth of clen, ephedra etc.. for the price of a month of an OTC fat burner, that's what i meant




you can pm me the original post or what was edited and i'll tell you what was wrong, or you can ask spywizard, i bet he was the one that edited it

ok, see now. I do eat a lot of nuts, and natty pb I hate it but force it down anyway.
The edit thing isnt that big a deal, I just dont want to break the rules. If I did im sorry

[Phate]

ok, see now. I do eat a lot of nuts, and natty pb I hate it but force it down anyway.
The edit thing isnt that big a deal, I just dont want to break the rules. If I did im sorry

it's fine and when we start designing your diet we'll work around things you don't like if we can, there are tons of sources of good fats so you don't have to eat natty peanut butter if you don't want to, hell i don't

[auslifta]

im 5'2", 110 lbs
working out for over 4 years
cardio 1 hour a day
free weights every other day

morning:
2 egg whites, 2 whole eggs

mid am
tin of tuna/green leafy veggies

lunch
chicken, or smoked salmon plus spinich/ beans. avocado

dinner
steak, green veggies, or turkey with green veggies

protein shake after workout,

Fixed it for you.make sure the protein amount is pound of your body/gram of protein. Every 4 days add sweet potato to morning meal. Also 2 tablespoons of flax oil for breakfast. Goodluck.

[Big]

My original post was edited, did i say something I wasn't supposed to? I didn't name any of the suppliers names...or did I?

Edited for fishing.

[auslifta]

maybe try eca stack too.

[Phate]

Fixed it for you.make sure the protein amount is pound of your body/gram of protein. Every 4 days add sweet potato to morning meal. Also 2 tablespoons of flax oil for breakfast. Goodluck.

morning:
2 egg whites, 2 whole eggs

mid am
tin of tuna/green leafy veggies

lunch
chicken, or smoked salmon plus spinich/ beans. avocado

dinner
steak, green veggies, or turkey with green veggies

protein shake after workout,

not to butt heads with you aus but i don't think this diet is well suited for her needs, she does 60min of cardio a day, but i don't see any good complex carbs here(i'm not counting the veges as depending on the type they may have virtually zero actually benefit after thermogenesis and digestion takes place)


personally i think she needs to get her daily caloric expenditure figured out, then build a diet from the ground up from macros

[Bench Machine]

Is that a picture of you if it is looking good girl. Keep up with all the hard work.

[heaven_lee]

it's fine and when we start designing your diet we'll work around things you don't like if we can, there are tons of sources of good fats so you don't have to eat natty peanut butter if you don't want to, hell i don't

ok, thanks sounds like a plan

[heaven_lee]

Edited for fishing.

is that sarcasm? what do you mean?

[heaven_lee]

morning:
2 egg whites, 2 whole eggs

mid am
tin of tuna/green leafy veggies

lunch
chicken, or smoked salmon plus spinich/ beans. avocado

dinner
steak, green veggies, or turkey with green veggies

protein shake after workout,

not to butt heads with you aus but i don't think this diet is well suited for her needs, she does 60min of cardio a day, but i don't see any good complex carbs here(i'm not counting the veges as depending on the type they may have virtually zero actually benefit after thermogenesis and digestion takes place)


personally i think she needs to get her daily caloric expenditure figured out, then build a diet from the ground up from macros

Well,what do you think? DOn't go out of your way but if you get some time let me know what you think will work for me?

[auslifta]

morning:
2 egg whites, 2 whole eggs

mid am
tin of tuna/green leafy veggies

lunch
chicken, or smoked salmon plus spinich/ beans. avocado

dinner
steak, green veggies, or turkey with green veggies

protein shake after workout,

not to butt heads with you aus but i don't think this diet is well suited for her needs, she does 60min of cardio a day, but i don't see any good complex carbs here(i'm not counting the veges as depending on the type they may have virtually zero actually benefit after thermogenesis and digestion takes place)


personally i think she needs to get her daily caloric expenditure figured out, then build a diet from the ground up from macros

Please bump heads, its constructive, and also gives different diet ideas. I'm not saying its the only diet out there for her, but it is an option.
She wants to cut up yeah? This will work, it worked great for my sister. Im one for not concentrating on calories, but rather what the bodies needs are eg protein and fat. on fourth day I recommended sweet potato she could also add wholegrain bread. This is basic idea diet. It does work though, iI have had amazing results with a few people on similar diet.

[heaven_lee]

Is that a picture of you if it is looking good girl. Keep up with all the hard work.

Thank you, yes that me, its almost a year old but like I said, I haven't changed much at all. I have bit more definition and gained 4-5 lbs since.

[auslifta]

Well,what do you think? DOn't go out of your way but if you get some time let me know what you think will work for me?

I have given you an option, Do with it what you will. If you want proper diet advice post in diet section, and i will give more through meal ideas, and you will hear advice from others. There are some great stickies in there too

[heaven_lee]

I have given you an option, Do with it what you will. If you want proper diet advice post in diet section, and i will give more through meal ideas, and you will hear advice from others. There are some great stickies in there too

Thank you, I will definitely take it into consideration, I appriciate you taking the time to post it. Yeah this thread took a slight detour off topic, I will post something in the diet threads.

[Bench Machine]

Thank you, yes that me, its almost a year old but like I said, I haven't changed much at all. I have bit more definition and gained 4-5 lbs since.

Wow got to love those Jersey girls!

[heaven_lee]

Wow got to love those Jersey girls!

haha, gotta love you pervert muscle freaks!! jk

[Phate]

is that sarcasm? what do you mean?

it means a part of your post sounded like you were asking for a source for anavar i bet, we are very strict on asking for sources, though i'm sure you didn't mean to so lesson learned, no harm no foul

Well,what do you think? DOn't go out of your way but if you get some time let me know what you think will work for me?

LMAO, it's nice of you to be so non-demanding of us, but we're here to help, if the people of this forum didn't go out of their way to help each other then it wouldn't be near as informative as it is, we enjoy helping each other as we are all in the pursuit of knowledge and the betterment of ourselves

Please bump heads, its constructive, and also gives different diet ideas. I'm not saying its the only diet out there for her, but it is an option.
She wants to cut up yeah? This will work, it worked great for my sister. Im one for not concentrating on calories, but rather what the bodies needs are eg protein and fat. on fourth day I recommended sweet potato she could also add wholegrain bread. This is basic idea diet. It does work though, iI have had amazing results with a few people on similar diet.

don't worry, i won't be pulling punches or anything, i just have respect for ya'll so i wanted to make sure you understood that i wasn't trying to call you out or anything

that being said, i believe that carbs are of the upmost importance as they are the primary source of energy during anaerobic activity, which encompasses HIIT training, workouts, and a good deal of cardio(though not all)

[heaven_lee]

it means a part of your post sounded like you were asking for a source for anavar i bet, we are very strict on asking for sources, though i'm sure you didn't mean to so lesson learned, no harm no foul



LMAO, it's nice of you to be so non-demanding of us, but we're here to help, if the people of this forum didn't go out of their way to help each other then it wouldn't be near as informative as it is, we enjoy helping each other as we are all in the pursuit of knowledge and the betterment of ourselves



don't worry, i won't be pulling punches or anything, i just have respect for ya'll so i wanted to make sure you understood that i wasn't trying to call you out or anything

that being said, i believe that carbs are of the upmost importance as they are the primary source of energy during anaerobic activity, which encompasses HIIT training, workouts, and a good deal of cardio(though not all)

Yeah, it kinda clicked after reading through the site last night. That's funny though because its the complete opposite of what I wanted. When I first signed up on here I was emailed by 50 different guys with there suppliers. Lesson definitely learned on that one.


As soon as I can settle and concentrate Im going to post on the diet forum my stats, diet ect.

[Big]

exactly, any post that states a desire to find steroids that someone is having trouble finding is what we call fishing. I remove those posts not for us, but to help protect the members who posted from all the scammers that are about to hit them up. we get reports almost every day of peeps being ripped off, it's a shame but it happens. most of our members are good people, but any site this big has some bad elements lurking to take advantage of people. it seems like everytime one is identified and dealt with 2 more pop up.

[Phate]

exactly, any post that states a desire to find steroids that someone is having trouble finding is what we call fishing. I remove those posts not for us, but to help protect the members who posted from all the scammers that are about to hit them up. we get reports almost every day of peeps being ripped off, it's a shame but it happens. most of our members are good people, but any site this big has some bad elements lurking to take advantage of people. it seems like everytime one is identified and dealt with 2 more pop up.

yeah, people are sadly always lurking around looking for a quick buck

[heaven_lee]

exactly, any post that states a desire to find steroids that someone is having trouble finding is what we call fishing. I remove those posts not for us, but to help protect the members who posted from all the scammers that are about to hit them up. we get reports almost every day of peeps being ripped off, it's a shame but it happens. most of our members are good people, but any site this big has some bad elements lurking to take advantage of people. it seems like everytime one is identified and dealt with 2 more pop up.

Yes, and I was ripped off by those same a@@holes, andit will NEVER happen again.

[Phate]

Yes, and I was ripped off by those same a@@holes, andit will NEVER happen again.

sorry to hear that, and sadly it happens everyday, live and learn though, at least you weren't placing a major order(meaning tens of thousands) and got ripped off, friend of mine had that happen recently

[heaven_lee]

sorry to hear that, and sadly it happens everyday, live and learn though, at least you weren't placing a major order(meaning tens of thousands) and got ripped off, friend of mine had that happen recently

I couldn't imagine, Thats a ton of money. I guess i am lucky. If I ever spend tha much money it will be on a new car, I don't know what someone would do with all of that stuff.