Odd stack

[richie1111]

I am:

age: 27
Height: 5'11''
Weight: 195
BF: 17%

looking to put on a little muscle and lose about 5% BF, with:

10 ml of test 400
20 ml of winny 100
10 ml of deca 300
7 ml of test enanthate

most important I want to lose fat, but the above is all I have access to...What is the best way to utilize what I have??

should I get some post stuff?? if so, what would be best??

Thanks!!!

[Mammon]

you need post stuff and mo stuff

[Dinosaur]

week 1 to 10 test 500mg split 2ice week
week 8 to 12 winny 50mg e/d

pct starts at week 13.

[Pittbull78]

Keep in mind loosing fat is more a matter of diet than it is gear. Yes its true as soon as I run my cycle it seems that I lean out a bit - but I really thats do to the fact that when I'm running my gear I'm more disciplined about my training and my diet.

I assume you plan on running enth first because it kicks in faster. Personally, I would get a bit more test because if you plan to only run 400 mgs a week, you should run it for at least 15 weeks, and more like 20 for even better results. I like to run test at about 600 mgs a week but since I get all my from UGLs and I always suspect they are are underdosed a bit I take more like 900. That seems to be a winning formula for me, but then again my goals maybe different than yours. As for Deca - Pah! I used to like it back in the day when the shit was real. Now a days because of the cost to produce nandrolone, most UGLs aren't making legit Deca. According to some reasearch that I just read recently, when tested from several UGLs the Deca stuff turned out simply to be watered down test. Everyone expects deca to have a mild effect so I guess the UGLs got smart and gave the public something "mild". So I say unless you are 120% sure that your shit is real Nandrolone - F@#$ it - get EQ instead. Its fairly cheap and yeilds similar results. I like Winny - for some reason it seems superior for me when it comes to keeping me strong while dieting.

PCT - just pick up some dex or clomid. Clomid is better.

[johnnybigguns]

I believe test 400 is 200mg test c and 200mg test e which will still kick at the same time as straight test e

[10nispro]

Cardio and diet will do you best before you start any cycle.

[richie1111]

thanks

[richie1111]

with the products i have what is best?? I dont have access to more.

[10nispro]

I can only guess that the test e you have is dosed at 250mg/ml. So you have 17ml of test total. You need to figure out a 10 week cycle with just the test and leave the others out. You don't have enough ml to do a correct cycle. I am guessing that this is your first cycle do keep it simple any way.

Also, you need to get your pct stuff lined up before you start your cycle. It's probably the most important thing you will need. Nolva with clomid or aromasin. Check out the pct forum.

[Brown Ninja]

save the deca. I am assuming this is your first cycle. You can stack the winny on the back but if your going to do a cycle take some more time and research and don't just throw a bunch of shit together because that's all you have. Do some more reading

[richie1111]

This is my first cycle

[Bossman]

If that's test 400 (400mg per ml) it may be painful. Its considered best to run one compound (test) for you first cycle. But, the test is not high, and the deca is a low dose but worthwhile for a first cycle.

Wk 1-10---Test 400, 1/2cc 2x per week
Wk 1-10---Deca 300, 1/2cc 2x per week
Wk 6-10---winny 100, 1/2cc Ed, drink the winny

What do you have proposed for PCT, after the cycle to help you recover?

[chuckt12345]

u got about 6 grams of test so you have enough to almost run 12 weeks. Id leave the deca out on this one if i were you but the winny isnt much of a problem for first cycle if you wanna throw it in.

[hankdiesel]

week 1-12 2x test per week
week 10-14 winny shot eod
pct week 15-18