Adex long term

[akat0ra]

I am currently running a long cycle of test (750mg EW) while I am cutting, and I need my adex (1mg EOD), but I have read that adex can **** up the cholesterol in your body.

How long can I run the adex? More than 4-6 months? Or do I have to switch to using Nolvadex in a period?

I get gyno very easy and bloat too.

[akat0ra]

I don't know how long my cycle is going to be yet, because I am currently cutting and won't go off before I have lost the last fat.

[Kale]

Well for a start u are running way to much. 0.25mg EOD is more than enough IMO. And I have been running 0.5 mg twice a week for the last three years and my cholesterol is fine

[jimmyinkedup]

yeah i think you should lower dose - goal is to control estrogen - not eliminate it (in most cases anyway). you'll prob also find that beneficial to your lipid profile....

[akat0ra]

If I lower my dose (which is pretty hard because of the small pills) I get painfull nipples etc.

But I will give it a shot. Can I take 1mg E3D or do I have to split my pills?

Kale: Have you been ON for the last three years?

[10nispro]

If you have trouble splitting pills, get liquid. It's easier to dose, imo.

[akat0ra]

It is very hard to get where I live.

[Reed]

Whats your bf%

[10nispro]

Go to the banner in the top right corner.

[redz]

If you get gyno very easily back off the dose. You are cutting with way too high an amount of Test.

[akat0ra]

I will lower the dose to 500mg a week.

My BF is 13% I think and my BW is 108 kg.

I may start on HGH 4units ED in a couple of weeks.

[Reed]

Looks good. I'd start slower than jumping in with 4iu of hgh off the bat. Just my opinion though. Do your research and head down to information threads of such. Do your research!

[akat0ra]

Can I replace my adex with nolvadex instead? And if so, what dose should I take with 500mg test E.

[Reed]

Nolva is a SERM. Adex is a AI. One blocks estrogen from the receptors the other reduces estro in the blood. My favorite PCT thread since its simple: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=198848

[akat0ra]

What whould you suggest for me doing 500mg test e? Can I use Nolvadex to prevent gyno and too high estrogen levels during cycle?

[Reed]

I can't make a specific suggestion and promise it will work. I don't know your blood work etc. Know what I mean. Maybe 10-20mg of nolva. with .25mg of arimidex eod or e3d in order to combat high estro. But remember estrogen plays an important role in growth and if your just being paranoid you have to understand estrogen is anabolic and reducing it too far will lead to problems and lack of growth.

[akat0ra]

Yeah, but arimidex is very expensive compared to nolvadex and is a lot harder to dose right.

But arimidex makes the estrogen to disappear and lowers it in the blood, and nolvadex just blocks the recepters but then I end up with too much estrogen in my blood, but is that a bad thing?

[akat0ra]

Anyone?

Is it bad for the blood to have too much estrogen in it? And can I choose to use Nolva?

[Reed]

Yes it is bad. If you using something to block the sites and not to reduce it in the blood what do you think will happen when you stop taking the serm?? Use an AI.

[Sherman01]

Do not let cost dictate you health decisions when it comes to doing a cycle. Use the Adex. Why are you running that high of a dose for 6 months? That's crazy bro! I think you might want to talk to people about cruising between cycles if that is what your kind of doing. One long giant cycle.....

[Kale]

If I lower my dose (which is pretty hard because of the small pills) I get painfull nipples etc.

But I will give it a shot. Can I take 1mg E3D or do I have to split my pills?

Kale: Have you been ON for the last three years?

Yes I have. And dosing is easy, go to the Pharmacy and buy a pill cutter. You can cut those pills into four with one.

[akat0ra]

Reed: "Yes it is bad. If you using something to block the sites and not to reduce it in the blood what do you think will happen when you stop taking the serm?? Use an AI."

What will happen? Will the sides of too much estrogen pop up even if I continue to use Nolva during PCT? And what about people who don't use anti e's at all.

Is too much estrogen dangerous for your health, or does it only give gyno and bloat?

Where I come from a lot of people use Nolva during cycle to prevent to much estrogen, but is that a bad idea? Should they use arimidex during cycle instead?

Very confusing subject

[M302_Imola]

Quit listing to dumbasses at the gym and start doing your homework. Seems like you are totally lost on gyno, AI's, serms, and PCT. Start reading the sticky's in the PCT section and let the search function be your friend. Sorry, not trying to be a dick!

[akat0ra]

I know how to setup a PCT and how SERM's and AI's work, but I can't find answers to this question: Is it bad to have too much estrogen in your blood? If so - I understand why AI's are important during cycle. But if not - Nolva should do the trick and prevent the side effects of too much estrogen.

[Doub1e_J]

I think they gave you the answer. It is bad to have too much estrogen. Like the others suggested cut your test to 500 a week and then you should be able to run less ai.

[akat0ra]

Does the test aromatase more to estrogen when you are cutting?

[M302_Imola]

Does the test aromatase more to estrogen when you are cutting?

I think you meant to use the word "aromatize" instead of aromatase...aromatase is the enzyme that aids in estrogen aromatization. Now to answer you question, no your test dosage should actually be lower during a cutting cycle compared to a "bulk" cycle where you might run greater than 500mg test/week. The less test in the system the less chance it has to aromatize into estrogen. What you really need to realize is that some estrogen is required for building muscle so one shouldn't eliminate estrogen all together. Controlling your estrogen level on cycle and during PCT is the key. If you are running a high amount of test 500mg or greater/week or are prone to gyno take a small dosage of an AI during cycle (and no nolvadex isn't preferred) and save the nolvadex for PCT. If you have controlled your estrogen during cycle then you may not need an AI in PCT.

[Garbanzo Dude]

As others have stated 1mg ED is way too high for A dex.......I'm taking .5mg every 4 days for 12 weeks....prescribed by my doc to stabilize test/e2/SHBG levels....the goal is to lower estrogen not get rid of it. yes you do need some it for good health, energy, immune etc.