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first let me say im a white guy. idk if anyone else has noticed this but do u think it is possible that the race of the person can effect the way he is able to put on muscle. for example their seems to be more big black guys at my gym than there are white dudes. also if u look at the pro bb their seems to be a majority of black guys. idk i guess what im saying is has anyone else noticed anything like this? and is it possible?
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genetics?
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I think that it is a aweful stereotype, but Ive always thought that some black guys have amazing genetics. Now I think that having darker skin may cause some of these visual things... Kinda like how bbs tan so much. IDK Im an idiot
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"aweful stereotype"? idk about that lol haha it doesnt really bother me because im not one of the lil white dudes. but i was jw what u guys thought
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genetics are very real so why don't more people acknolwedge it? It isn't bad to acknowledge that a lot of black people have great genetics, and it doesn't mean there aren't alot of white people or other races with the same deviations within thier races. I think the problem is that when people say it out loud it most often undermines the persons work ethic. The last thing a dude wants to hear after busting his ass in the gym is that he has good genetics, and that my friend is universal.
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and this is a fact? i don't think so...It isn't bad to acknowledge that a lot of black people have great genetics
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OK Ok T Own have your way, no they don't.
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fight fight fight! haha
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i'm just saying you can't generalize something like this over an entire race. there are a lot of black people that are fat, a lot that are slow, a lot that can't jump, yet people always seem to think just cause your black you should be good at basketball and run fast
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oh was there another thread like this?
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Didnt u have that Rampage avatar?? Man, that black guy had great genetics!
jk
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no offense but how many big asain guys do u see? not very many that i know of
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I can run fast but I suck at basketball........lol wait I am white, but does this make me half black if so can I change my name to obama jr. I have always wanted to live in the white house........
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Maybe this would be the right thread to question ur username??????
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yeah im doing the opposit thing micheal jackson did lol
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HA I always thought the same thing! He is not impressive in any way huh? But I don' want none of dat!!
T Own your comments are understood, people do say those things, but that hasn't been mentioned here and should not be attributed to my thought patterns or comments. My business partner is a white guy that couldn't put on an ounce of fat if he tried. He uses ice cream in his protien shakes literally and when I tell him I hate his ass he doesn't think anything about it other than I envy him, which I do.
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LOL a few. but they are few and far between
yes, i used to have a pic of rampage, and yes hes in very good shape.
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i have a friend like that who is white too, he looks almost sickly because he has so little fat on him. he isn't very big, but he looks a lot bigger just because he is so defined. i got stronger than him so i'm not worried about it anymore
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As an ethnic Pakistani, I can safely say that our genetics are horrible, sigh. We have twig arms and big bellies.
Back in the day I used to work out like anything, and if I was any other race, I'd probably be a beast.
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There's been a thread on this before and everyone gets all pissy, but I say black dudes are naturally cut out to be cut up more so than white dudes. Just from what I've seen.
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I was taking some health and nutrition class when I was in college and read that black people are more prone to heart attacks because they build muscle easier and the heart is a muscle. I always attributed that to why I see more big black guys than any other race
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anyone from new zealand and samoa will tell you that the dark boys are big and strong. the rugby league was talking about not letting them play in australia due to there freakish ability to gain muscle. it was an unfair advantage against the white boys haha
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i read somewhere that its down to natty test levels. black men on average have higher natty test levels than over races, on the other end of the spectrum asian, oriental guys have lowest. We all know that test is the key to building muscle so makes sense why a lot of black guys are naturally built and build mass easier. This was only an average and obviously there are white and asian guys who also have high natty test.
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How many times has this thread been locked before?
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I too thought this BS had died .....
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So I am white but I have a massive penis, how do you explain that ? And there are no blacks in my heritage !!
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This has got to be the dumbest thread ive ever seen...
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Obvious freak of nature!So I am white but I have a massive penis, how do you explain that ? And there are no blacks in my heritage !!
I think there is a good mix of races in BBing. Yeah, there are some genetic freaks, but here again, nothing to do with race IMO.
To be a great BBer, there are no short cuts.
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talk about urself..........ur genetics sucks...I just picked the right parents
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You're ethnically Pakistani?talk about urself..........ur genetics sucks...I just picked the right parents
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yep
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There are absolutely differences in ability to gain muscle and stay lean. Especially with the natural guys, as black men have higher testosterone levels, on the average, than white guys by as much as 19%. They tend to hold less bodyfat too. That does not mean they cannot get fat, it just less common for them.
Structural differences advantages too. Narrow joints, and narrow hips are more common in black guys. Not that every black guy has this, but a much higher% of the black population does.
It is far easier to find black bodybuilders who have both the structure advantages as well as ability to pack on muscle and get lean. Think Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillett, Ronnie Coleman, Chris Cormier etc... The list goes on and on, as having both good structure and muscle building genetics are found in almost all black bodybuilders.
That does not mean the black guys don’t have to train hard. It is just that the results are amplified due to good genetics. This helps all around for bodybuilding. Not all black men have those genetics, but a much higher% of them do than say whites and asians.
With the white guys it tends to be one or the other, often neither.
Some white guys do have small joints and narrow hips, but those same white guys tend to have worse genetics for packing on mass. Take Frank Zane for example. He had enough mass to succeed as a bodybuilder in the 1970s, but by today’s standard he was skinny.
I have not seen and cannot think of any white guy with better structure than Zane, who also had the ability to pack on lots of mass.
Then there are some white guys who can easily put on muscle mass. Unfortunately for them, they also tend to be the same white guys who have bone structure like a Bovine. Look at Gunter Schlierkamp. There obviously has to be something special for any guy to be 310 pounds on stage and 340 offseason, regardless of Racial group. The only issue is all that muscle is on a 6’2” frame, with wrist and elbow joints bigger than my thigh, and a 40” waist when dieted down. The only good structure Gunter has is wide clavicles.
Because of the size of his frame, Gunter’s 310 does not look as impressive as Ronnie’s 285-295, heck even Ronnie at 250-260 had more contrast between frame size and muscle size.
Are those differences racial? Yes. Like it or not, more black guys than any other group have ideal structure while at the same time also having the better genetics for gaining muscle and getting cut.
I am not saying that the worth of a person or their soul is any less based on race, but the physical differences are more than just pigment.
Last edited by meathead320; 01-28-2009 at 03:58 PM.
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not to sound racist...but back when they had african slaves here...didnt they only pick the biggest and strongest and get rid of the weaker ones?
that would explain why there are more genetically big black people than others...
just a thought.....
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I still think Zane had better structure than them, but I did not think of them off the top of my head.
Still those white guys with both good structure, and muscle gaining ability, are a smaller% of the overall population.
I did not say all white guys suck and all black dudes are great at bodybuilding.
There are more than just social reasons black guys are way over-represented compared to the total population in the IFBB however.
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