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  1. 01-31-2009, 11:38 PM #1
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    Unhappy Fertility Issues?

    Is it possible to go totally infertile by taking AAS or can it ultimately become recovered. I had my sperm tested and the test came back and said that I didn't have any. I did another test after being off the cycle for about 3 months or so and I also took clomid and nolva on PCT and I got tested again and they could find any live sperm. Am I ****ed or will it just take a longer time to get it back. I knocked my wife up with our first and second kid while I was on the gear now all of the sudden I can't get her pregnant. I haven't taken HCG in a couple of years at least and I just ordered some a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully that will make a difference. Any help or advice or comments would be great. Just want to have more kids sometime in the next year. What do I need to do? Is it possible I am screwed forever?
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    You need to look into hmg. It is better for raising sperm count, but for the best results it should be used in conjunction with hcg. Good luck bro.
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    No AI and HCG in that PCT? The two most fundamental of any PCT imo, for raising sperm count/testicular function.

    Proviron is also known for being a "little gem" with regards to raising sperm count post-cycle. Look in to that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killzone View Post
    Is it possible to go totally infertile by taking AAS or can it ultimately become recovered. I had my sperm tested and the test came back and said that I didn't have any. I did another test after being off the cycle for about 3 months or so and I also took clomid and nolva on PCT and I got tested again and they could find any live sperm. Am I ****ed or will it just take a longer time to get it back. I knocked my wife up with our first and second kid while I was on the gear now all of the sudden I can't get her pregnant. I haven't taken HCG in a couple of years at least and I just ordered some a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully that will make a difference. Any help or advice or comments would be great. Just want to have more kids sometime in the next year. What do I need to do? Is it possible I am screwed forever?
    Best thing to do is stop all drugs and let your body take it;s natural course.

    Maverick Whats an AI in PCT got to do with raising sperm count?
    And isn't the fundamental part of PCT using SERMS to fool the HPTA into talking to the pituitary gland to produce LH and FSH?
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  5. 02-01-2009, 10:39 PM #5
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    I am a little confused. What should I use and/or not use. I have HCG, letro, L Dex, Nolva and Clomid. Help please.
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    Dude, GET HMG!!! Do a search on it. That is what you need. HMG HMG HMG
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    Some times take up to 2 years to bounce back to normal sperm account. Just stay off gear and do your job and after your wife will be pregnant go back and cycle again.

    And how look your testosterone? Its normal or low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobie-BOY View Post
    Dude, GET HMG!!! Do a search on it. That is what you need. HMG HMG HMG
    Why??????? iv'e researched HMG to death and it's eficacy in promoting spermatogenesis via the LH receptor is no greater than HCG, which i might add is much easier to source and a lot cheaper.
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    I have another question about HCG. I got some and it says intramuscular injection only and is mixed with sodium cloride. I always thought you could just use an insulin needle to inject. Just want to make sure I am doing it right.
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    its premixed with sodium cloride?
    id rather reconstitute it myself with bacteriostatic water
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    It is not premixed. The Sodium Cloride comes in a vial and HCG powder is in a little bottle
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    dont use the sodium cloride.. unless your injecting it all within 24 hours..
    use bacteriostatic water
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    i'm currently going through the same issue w/ no soldiers. if you go to a urologist he's going to either start you on HCG by itself or combine HMG with it. even then it's usually 8-12 weeks before you start producing sperm at normal quantities. Also keep in mind the gestation period for sperm is roughly 3 months. so what you are putting out right now was created 3 months ago, which was zero. Most of the time, not all the time, normal sperm production will come back around 4 months after the end of a cycle on it's own. if not, you are destined for the hcg/hmg treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    Why??????? iv'e researched HMG to death and it's eficacy in promoting spermatogenesis via the LH receptor is no greater than HCG, which i might add is much easier to source and a lot cheaper.
    Hcg + hmg = greater sperm count.
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    I dont know anything about HMG and never have heard of it. Also, don't know where to get the bacteriostatic water?
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    Use some water for injections and add 0,9% benzylalcohole and than you will have Bacteriostatic water.

    10ml aqua pro injectione + 0,09ml (or 9IU on inzuline syringe) and you have BSW. Easy I think.

    hMG is prescription peptide hormone from urine of menopausal womans what imitate FSH action but hCG have mixed action of LH and FSH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XNathan View Post
    Use some water for injections and add 0,9% benzylalcohole and than you will have Bacteriostatic water.

    10ml aqua pro injectione + 0,09ml (or 9IU on inzuline syringe) and you have BSW. Easy I think.

    hMG is prescription peptide hormone from urine of menopausal womans what imitate FSH action but hCG have mixed action of LH and FSH.
    bro you got this backwards. hcg acts like LH and hmg acts like fsh AND lh.
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  18. 02-28-2009, 03:06 AM #18
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    keep us updated bro,wish luck
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    wow never knew this stuff b4
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    500iu hcg every other day for 4 weeks along with clomid @ 100mg/ed and you will be good to go, this is what I have used over the last 20 yrs,I have 5 kids,just had my 5th 6 weeks ago,I was into the 3rd yr of a 5 yr run,she wanted a baby,i came off for 1 month,ran what I described to you above and she was pregnant within 6 weeks.
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    This was my baby protocol....

    Wk 1: 1500iu of HCG 2x per week (mon, thurs), 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 2: 1500iu of HCG 2x per week (mon, thurs), 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 3: 1000iu of HCG 2x per week (mon, thurs), 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 4: 1000iu of HCG 2x per week (mon, thurs), 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 5: 100mg of clomid per day, 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 6: 50mg of clomid per day, 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 7: 50mg of clomid per day, 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 8: 50mg of clomid per day, 25mg of Aromasin per day
    Wk 9-10: 25mg of Aromasin per day
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