Second Cycle, but have some questions.

[murphylee]

Hey all,

Alright, I'm 23 years old, 6'00 215lbs. I'm an athlete (rugby) and trying to put on some more size and strength, and also slim down a bit. My body fat isn't the best, maybe close to 18-20%. I am thinking about doing another cycle, and here is what I have in mind:

Test Enanthate for 15 weeks
Tren Ace (or E) for 8 weeks, starting after the second week of Test
Winnie(Possibly for the last 5, but not sure because of the possible tendon side effects with me playing rugby and all)

Use nolvadex during the cycle to fight bitch tits, and Clomid for the PCT

Now I'm just fishing for ideas, so any input?

Thanks

[inky-e]

At what doses my friend??

[murphylee]

That's the thing, I'm not eintirely sure. That's why I'm on here. It's been quite a while since I've done one, so I'm doing my preliminary research. I'm also in the process of trying to precure some stuff.

What would you recommend?

[BIG_TRUCK]

Tren ace will hurt your cardio.

Your diet needs fixed if your body fat is around 20% with all the running rugby demands.

Test only would be best for u.

[Matt]

If it were me lol id get your bf down first...

[redz]

Your diet needs fixed if your body fat is around 20% with all the running rugby demands.

This is funny advice coming from someone with 30% bf.

[Matt]

Yeah i would also drop the tren, run the test at 500mg per week..

[BIG_TRUCK]

This is funny advice coming from someone with 30% bf.

Dont be judgin. I don't rugby it.

[murphylee]

hmm, perhaps I have misjudged it. It's not very high. I'm not the leanest kid out there, I think I've highballed it.

I've been running and what not, and my diet's not that bad. I'm moving to NYC in a week and a half, and once I do I'll be biking to work (70 miles a week).

I was thinking about stacking the test because last time that's all I did and even with a gallon and a half of water a day I retained a lot of water.

Ideally what I'm looking for is a cutting cycle. I'm not well versed on the subject of stacking, and was told that the test + tren stack would be good for that.

[JiGGaMaN]

what do you think about this:
now look at me look at everybody else in the parking lot
take a look at my shooes
cause i do what i do everybody else talkin like
take a look at my shooes
and its amazin how real i am and how lame they are,take the shoes to my car
the shoes to my body oh naughty,ima do what i do while you take a look at my shoes.

[BIG_TRUCK]

what do you think about this:
now look at me look at everybody else in the parking lot
take a look at my shooes
cause i do what i do everybody else talkin like
take a look at my shooes
and its amazin how real i am and how lame they are,take the shoes to my car
the shoes to my body oh naughty,ima do what i do while you take a look at my shoes.

You got the new adidas bounce kicks dont ya....ahhhhhhh yeah u do.

[murphylee]

jiggaman you've been the most help to me....thanks.

[murphylee]

and let me ask you this, any ideas on how to get rid of the bitch tits?

[inky-e]

what do you think about this:
now look at me look at everybody else in the parking lot
take a look at my shooes
cause i do what i do everybody else talkin like
take a look at my shooes
and its amazin how real i am and how lame they are,take the shoes to my car
the shoes to my body oh naughty,ima do what i do while you take a look at my shoes.

Bro...put down the blunt !!

[JiGGaMaN]

Bro...put down the blunt !!

hey man i was jamin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWKWh19ZzCY