d-bol or t-bol

[grappstar]

Hey guys gonna start my second cycel soon, my first cycle was test-e 600mg each week.

I dident like the injections to much... much pain after injection(somtimes no pain tho).

but my question is, d-bol or t-bol. I like the fact that tbol dosent have estrogenic side effects and dont effect your own testo production to much.
But then agin i dident retain ANY water from 600mg test ew, so i might not retain any water from d-bol anyways.

Witch 1 would you recomend and why?

[Big]

if it's an oral only cycle you're asking about, tbol would be the only sensible option out of the two.
stats?

[johnnybigguns]

Are you thinking of doing an oral only?

[grappstar]

yes im gonna do oral only cycle. i have plans of gaining 5kg over a couple of months so no problems if it takes longer.

[Big]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?

[grappstar]

20 years 193cm 94kg 13% bodyfat

[johnnybigguns]

Since you already jumped over the edge I would keep injecting if I were you in my future cycles. I still get sore and I've injected 100s or times

[grappstar]

Since you already jumped over the edge I would keep injecting if I were you in my future cycles. I still get sore and I've injected 100s or times

doing grappling and thai boxing. :P I dont mind being sore on my weight lifting days but grappling when ur sore is somthing else

[johnnybigguns]

try injecting real slow and massaging the area after.
You can also warm your gear or maybe try a new brand as some hurt more then others. I find going deeper it hurts less too

[grappstar]

not realy into doing another injection cycle wery soon... im gonna do a oral only cycle. I hate to go to the pharmacy buying needels and stuff. and i hate to inject myself even tho it dosent hurt... I dont need to put on to much size only a couple of kgs so i think its better to do this whit orals.
I already have testo-p if i wanted to do injections. but im gonna go whit dianabol or oral turina. im just asking if you got any experience whit either one of them(bad and good) and if you have experience whit both witch would you recomend?

[redz]

If you have good gear and know how to properly inject with the right size pins it should be virtually painless during and after the injection. I`m going to kickstart my next Tren/Test cycle with TBOL but I have not used it yet, Dbol is pretty heavy on bloat usually.

[grappstar]

If you have good gear and know how to properly inject with the right size pins it should be virtually painless during and after the injection. I`m going to kickstart my next Tren/Test cycle with TBOL but I have not used it yet, Dbol is pretty heavy on bloat usually.

I was kinda wondering if i might not bloat. dident bloat anything of 600mg aw pure testo cycle. :P but my heart is leaning aginst TBOL

[powerliftmike]

if it were me choosing between the two..dbol. i like the bloat and mass for strength and its usually cheaper

[J-Dogg]

I actually think T-bol is extremely affordable. There is no reason you can't do a 10 week cycle for around Edited...
Injecting hurt that much even with just weekly injects? I hope you are using a new pin every time.

T-bol would be my choice though, keeps solid gains, no estrogenic effects and you won't have to run PCT but I'd keep nova on hand to be safe.

I'm using 16 weeks of 500mgs eq right now and am adding t-bol/var the last 8 weeks to help cut down. Will be hard to cut though, the EQ hits my appetite pretty good.