Help with breaking down cycle - Test Prop w/ Anavar

[jbb4343]

Heres what i have in my possesion:

50 100mg Test Prop Amps
270 10mg Pills of Anavar.

Stats 27 M 193lbs 11-12% bf
3rd cycle, first in 7 years

Looking to put on a solid 10lbs but mainly get real cut and drop some BF and stay around the 200lb range. I will follow best diet plan i can but help me on the AAS side of it.

What i was thinking was

150mg EOD test prop for 9 weeks , up to a 11 week with the amount i have

Anavar 50mg ED for 8 weeks or 40mg ED for 9 weeks

It will leave me with a few extra test prop shots, that i can save for a later cycle or bump up if i am not getting the results i woudl like. Or, would it be better to start out with the 100mg ED injection for a week or 2, then switch to a EOD? I just dont want to throw my levels off to much and have more side effects then i should. I really dont want to gain 30lbs from this cycle either, which from my research the prop should do a good job at keeping the water weight off or low.

Call me a wuss or not, i really want to stay way from the ED injections for the entire cycle, and i think 700mg test might be too much for me right now considering its my first cycle in 7 years. EOD shots is pushing it for me. The other thing i am concerned about is the Pain from the 150mg Test prop shots.

Thoughts? Comments?

PCT will include Nov/Clom and ill have arimdex on hand as well.

[oneshot]

personally, i would much rather take a smaller shot ed than a larger shot eod. aside from recommending ed shots, your current layout looks pretty good to me.

[Outta Kontrol]

I think it actually looks good...on paper at least. 600 mgs of prop a week will get you were you are trying to go. I dont think it would be necesary to frontload with 100 mgs ed for 2 weeks and then switch to eod shots. if anything just do 75 mgs ed throughout the cycle to keep you levels stable. but to frontload such a short estered test is, well, pointless. its like kickstarting dbol with more dbol... just an opinion. would love to hear other advice though.
for me I would say the cycle looks good though. Of course the diet will make all the difference. Also, a more detailed outline of your PCT would be nice too. toss it up here and see what advice you get about it as well.

[jbb4343]

If i did say do the ED shot, how would i get a 75mg shot from my 100mg amps? i was going to take 3 amps and make 2 shots with that, but i think it might be kind of hard to accurately make 4 shots out of 3 amps? Anyone have experience with that? And how is it storing the shot in the needle for a couple of days if i did do that?

Also, if i start out with the EOD 150mg, and the pain becomes too much, how horiible will it be to switch to the ED shot at that point?

My PCT is the 4 week one recommended in the stickys. Standard PCT which i think shoudl be good for my short cycle of 8-9 weeks.

[oneshot]

I think it actually looks good...on paper at least. 600 mgs of prop a week will get you were you are trying to go. I dont think it would be necesary to frontload with 100 mgs ed for 2 weeks and then switch to eod shots. if anything just do 75 mgs ed throughout the cycle to keep you levels stable. but to frontload such a short estered test is, well, pointless. its like kickstarting dbol with more dbol... just an opinion. would love to hear other advice though.
for me I would say the cycle looks good though. Of course the diet will make all the difference. Also, a more detailed outline of your PCT would be nice too. toss it up here and see what advice you get about it as well.

agreed

[oneshot]

If i did say do the ED shot, how would i get a 75mg shot from my 100mg amps? i was going to take 3 amps and make 2 shots with that, but i think it might be kind of hard to accurately make 4 shots out of 3 amps? Anyone have experience with that? And how is it storing the shot in the needle for a couple of days if i did do that?

Also, if i start out with the EOD 150mg, and the pain becomes too much, how horiible will it be to switch to the ED shot at that point?

My PCT is the 4 week one recommended in the stickys. Standard PCT which i think shoudl be good for my short cycle of 8-9 weeks.

just transfer it all into vials before you start, then you wont have to worry about leaving open amps or preloading syringes

[Outta Kontrol]

dont get me wrong... ED is preferred, but eod is acceptable too. I dont think u will be so jacked up from switching to ed after taking a few shots eod, or vice versa. As for storage, you can pre-loaded the shots in the syringes and use them as needed. A lot of people who order the sachets do this. just open the amp, take out what you need, get a new syringe, and get out the rest. Store it until you open another amp.

or load it all into vials and end all the madness lol

[Outta Kontrol]

just transfer it all into vials before you start, then you wont have to worry about leaving open amps or preloading syringes

damn it!!! you said it firsdt lol.

[jbb4343]

thanx guys, going to start with the 150mg EOD and see how bad it is. If i can deal with the pain, ill keep at it with that.

Anyone have advice on the anavar. Should i start with the 50mg ED and run it for the 8 weeks or spread it to 9 weeks at 40mg ED so i am running the var/prop together the entire time. And if the 50mg ED is better, would it be better to end with it or start with it? Leaving a 1 week lag or short fall? And for dosage, split it up into mornign and night? Half and half? or take it all at one time?


And while i was searching, someone said to take the test prop shot in the morning, as it might not be as bad with the pain in doing it that way? Or does it realy not matter?

[oneshot]

thanx guys, going to start with the 150mg EOD and see how bad it is. If i can deal with the pain, ill keep at it with that.

Anyone have advice on the anavar. Should i start with the 50mg ED and run it for the 8 weeks or spread it to 9 weeks at 40mg ED so i am running the var/prop together the entire time. And if the 50mg ED is better, would it be better to end with it or start with it? Leaving a 1 week lag or short fall? And for dosage, split it up into mornign and night? Half and half? or take it all at one time?


And while i was searching, someone said to take the test prop shot in the morning, as it might not be as bad with the pain in doing it that way? Or does it realy not matter?

split the var taking half early and half later. being as var is a pretty mild aas, i think you would benefit more from the 50 for 8 weeks. the 1 week difference shouldnt matter too much, so go with whichever you want. i personally cant tell a difference in injecting in the morning as oppose to later, just try to make it a fairly consistent time of day every time

[M302_Imola]

if the 150mg of Prop EOD is causing to much pain you can try cutting it with .5ml of sterile oil. That would up the volume of each shot to 2ml which should be fine in the glutes or guads.

[jbb4343]

yea, i think i was wrong on my Amps. i think its actually 2ml / 100mg, so only 50mg/ml Im going to be taking a 3ml shot EOD to get 150mg EOD. Ill try it for the fisrt couple shots, and if its too much, i maybe consider going to 75mg ED.