Test E + Cyp

[Apec]

So I havent heard much about this but I can get 5 week of cyp and 5 week of Enanthate. Would it be ok to do 5 week Enanthate then switch to Cyp? I obviously I would switch from EOD to 2x week. I will also be on 50mg of winny, but that won't matter. It will look something like this....
Week 1-5 Test E 500mg/wk
Week 6-11 Test Cyp 500mg/wk
Week 5-10 Winny 50mg ED

PCT will be Nova and Proviron, and I am looking to add Proviron ED too...maybe 100mg. Thoughts

[D7M]

what are your stats?

age?
height?
weight?
bf?
trainin/cycle experience?

[Apec]

24
5'3
140lbs
not sure body fat...I think its 12-14 judging by looks.
Working out hard since high school but took about a year off last year. I have done winny and Enanthate seperate a few years ago and was really happy, so mine as well do both

[Dizz28]

What and why would you be injecting EOD then switching to 2x a week...

[D7M]

no offense, but you're not 12-14, more like 15-18.

train hard and learn to diet naturally for a bit first...trust me, you'll see much better results off a cycle that way.

[Apec]

No offense taken...i posted that to get an idea of what people thought my bf% was. I don't diet exactly, but eat 4-5 meals aday, small meals, mainly grilled chicken salad, and decent amount of pasta (Italain). I know I could get diet a bit better, but without a diet and working out when I took my year off of lifting i looked like different person

Switching EOD to 2x week because longer ester of Cyp.

So is this possible?

[Dizz28]

They are basically the same, shot in the same inj frequency. You don't need to inj Enanthate Eod...

[D7M]

why not just run either cyp or e?

they are almost identical. both need to be shot E3D.

i still don't suggest a cycle for you. get that diet on track, bro!

[Apec]

My source only has 5weeks of each. I know I need to get my diet better but i'm pretty sure I am close enough to do another cycle. Any other suggestions?

[Big]

cyp and test e are interchangeable, shoot them each twice a week, run one then the other, won't matter which is first.

[Apec]

but since cyp has a longer ester I can run that 1x a week right...500mg? Then Enanthate 250 2x a week.

[seriousmass]

but since cyp has a longer ester I can run that 1x a week right...500mg? Then Enanthate 250 2x a week.

where are you getting these injection schedules from?? honestly...

you said you already ran a cycle of test-enan in the past? well how often were you injecting it? hopefully not EOD..

just run the test-enan for 5 weeks until you run out, shooting it twice a week, and then run the cyp for 5 weeks, also shooting it twice a week.

[Dizz28]

but since cyp has a longer ester I can run that 1x a week right...500mg? Then Enanthate 250 2x a week.

slightly, not enough to make any type of difference at all. Run them both E3D

[Big]

cyp and test e are interchangeable, shoot them each twice a week, run one then the other, won't matter which is first.

but since cyp has a longer ester I can run that 1x a week right...500mg? Then Enanthate 250 2x a week.

If you could run the cyp once a week I wouldn't have stated otherwise. Work with me here, help me help you lol.

[Apec]

and for pct letro and nova starting 14 days after last shot right. Nova 30mg/day. Letro 2.5 mg/day??

[Mammon]

how about nolvadex and clomid.
wouldnt run 2.5 letro ed in pct ill tell you that

[Apec]

why not 2.5, maybe just 1 then?? I was trying to be safe. I was also looking to run Proviron throughout the 12 weeks. During PCT, should I keep on the Proviron?

[Big]

I would never use letro for pct.

[Apec]

why not? Everything I read says its a great anti-a. Also, how about the Proviron?

[Mammon]

i wouldnt use letro in pct at all.. proviron can be used in pct.. but i choose not to use it.. at high doses its shown to have a negative effect on HPTA.. altho at much higher doses then we would ever consider to run.. still i wont use it... just a little quirk i guess.

[Apec]

anything about the proviron? Ive been reading it is great to take with test because it enhances the Test, but I cant really understand how to take during and PCT. Or if I should not use for pct and only nova with maybe Letro

[Mammon]

how about nolvadex and clomid.
wouldnt run 2.5 letro ed in pct ill tell you that

again... and i would not use letro during pct...

[Big]

~sigh~
good luck with whatever you choose to do.
I'm out of this one.

[Apec]

ok i get it..no letro. thanks guys, but what about the Proviron

[Mammon]

your call on the proviron.. but i wouldnt use it to replace either the nolvadex or clomid.

[Apec]

It's not so much for the pct, but more to help wit drying up and boosting the test. I'm just not sure if I should continue it into pct.

[Mammon]

thats up to you..
if thats all your using it for.. not something id count on as gyno prevention