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    Suggestions ,basic Deac Test 12w cycle

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    bf 13%
    Working out Hard for 13 yrs

    My Gear is Test200 and Deca300
    From reading Im thinking 3/4cc 2 times a week =500ml week
    And Test 1 1/4 cc's 2 times a week =450ml a week
    for a 12 week cycle.
    Suggestions,Ideas,Experience appreciated.
    Not looking for a high dose cycle however not looking to waste my gear.
    Thanks

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    Any previous cycles under your belt?

    Do you have your post cycle therapy?

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    No cycles under my belt
    And I was looking for some Nolvadex,But no access to any.I do have some tabs that are octagon shaped that say TN 20 on them.Which are for PTC.

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    You should just go ahead and stick to test only, that the best choice for you

    As for the tabs what are they? Nolvadex?

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    you don't know what they are but they are for pct? mabee tamoxifen 20mg or something? hell, if you don't know what it is, get something else. shouldn't be hard to find.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keycorp;4****55
    No cycles under my belt
    And I was looking for some Nolvadex,But no access to any.I do have some tabs that are octagon shaped that say TN 20 on them.Which are for PTC.

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    I was told they are Nolvadex yes.
    They are shaped like a stop sign and have TN 20 on them.

    What would you suggest for the test deca cycle though?
    Deca once a week Test 2 times.Or both 2 times a week and are my doses ok?

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    I dont suggest that you do deca for a 1st cycle, test only

    save the deca for the future

    run your test at 400-500mg/week split into 2 shots/week 200-250 each

    as for your pct get some clomid also

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    How much and when would you start using clomid,I understand the pct.
    But I have read lots of times guys will take clomid and Nolvadex,while on the cycle.
    I already took my first shoot of deca 2 days ago and going to start test now.

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    ya u need to start that test asap then

    are you planning on continuing the deca then?

    cuz that will determine your start of pct

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    and no you shouldnt use clomid anf nolva on cycle

    use nolva IF signs of gyno arise in order to prevent it from getting worse

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    Yes I would like to do the deca test cycle.

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    As far as starting the test I was going to start that tonight .

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    good start the test

    inject each 2x/week in split doses

    is the test u have cypionate or enanthate?

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    you re gonna have to run your test 1 week longer than the deca due to the fact that deca has a longer half life

    pct will start 10 days after last test shot if the ester is enanthate
    12 days after last shot if the ester is cypionate

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    cypionate

    deca and test injected on the same day in ur experience?
    or do u split them up?
    Deca Mon-Thursday?
    Test Tues-Friday?

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    no you wana go same day

    i like to load it all up in one syringe, so thats one shot twice/week

    so since its cyp either run your deca to week 11 and test to 12

    or deca to week 12 cyp week 13, id do this 1

    then 12 days later start your pct

    what is your planned pct schedule and doses?

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    I was not aware your could do it all in the same shot! that's perfect and eaisier!
    As far as the pct I was going to ask advice on what others have used for a test deca cycle,and what worked well for them.

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    well considering deca is a 19nor steroid, it can bind to the progesterone receptor, basically meaning it can cause estrogen like side effects, also prolactin build up

    in that case, i suggest have bromo or caber on hand. this is why i and alota people on here will suggest a test only cycle for your 1st run

    as for pct i like clomid, nolva, and adex

    i run it for 4 weeks at these doses, they work for me, theyre pretty typical

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    adex .25 mg every other day

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    Ok thanks allot so a monday thursday injection is ok?
    And i have to locate bromo or caber .Actually that's why i picked up the nolva,But it looks like I underestimated what I needed.

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    its good you have nolva, but yes you need to pick up a few more things IMO

    better safe than sorry bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keycorp View Post
    Ok thanks allot so a monday thursday injection is ok?
    And i have to locate bromo or caber .Actually that's why i picked up the nolva,But it looks like I underestimated what I needed.
    yes monday and thursday is good

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    Hey that's why I'm asking your opinion,much rather safe than sorry foresure.
    I don't need to start the nolva yet thought?I noticed someguys use it during the cycle and some just do pct.

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    And just so I'm prefectly clear.1cc of deca300 2 times a week is 600ml
    And 1cc of test200 2 times a week is 400ml .

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    using it during cycle is old school IMO

    BUT, if any gyno problems start to arise, then yes you would take some nolva for a few days or however long until the sides go away. when they go away, discontinue the nolva. then ofcourse start the nolva again when you go into pct.

    what nolva is gonna do is stop the estrogen any further binding to the receptors

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    using it during cycle is old school IMO

    BUT, if any gyno problems start to arise, then yes you would take some nolva for a few days or however long until the sides go away. when they go away, discontinue the nolva. then ofcourse start the nolva again when you go into pct.

    what nolva is gonna do is stop the estrogen any further binding to the receptors
    Awesome insight thanks for all the advice.

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    yes those doses are correct BUT, lol

    IMHO id suggest for you to run the deca at 500mg/week and the test @ 400mg/week

    just to keep the deca lower, but at a good enough dose to be effective even 400mg would give you good results

    dont want run it too high, that invites unwanted sides, especially since it is your 1st time

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    yes those doses are correct BUT, lol

    IMHO id suggest for you to run the deca at 500mg/week and the test @ 400mg/week

    just to keep the deca lower, but at a good enough dose to be effective even 400mg would give you good results

    dont want run it too high, that invites unwanted sides, especially since it is your 1st time
    Yeah thats exactly what I was thinking!very low yet still get something out of it just to go through it all safely the first time yet not totally watse it lol.i know others might lol at that and think its a watse but i'm sure i will be happy and content with any gain I make.
    I Appreciate the advice CHUCKYthentic.

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    anytime man, keep me (us) updated

    good luck!

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