Why is food protein better than shake protein?

[xephonics]

I keep reading that you should get your protein via food instead of shakes when possible. I'm quite curious why. I mean most good shakes have low fat and low carbs and multiple types of proteins (egg, whey, etc). And they have all the bcaa's and aminos.

I don't really see the point of saying you should not drink a shake if you can eat food instead, especially if you only are drinking 1-2 shakes a day.

[IM708]

Post workout use a shake but for other times of the day use whole food sources. You don't need protein to get into the bloodstream within 20 mins during most parts of the day. Whole food sources will provide a steady stream of AAs over a period of several hours and will have nutrients not commonly found in bulk protein powders. Thermic effect will also be higher in whole food sources.

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

If I'm hungry I'll cook food
If I'm not hungry and/or lazy I'll go with a shake

#1 = That I give my body the right nutrients

Shakes are at times alot more convenient than a meal .. Depends on the situations
I also cant stomach anything first thing in the morning so I go with a shake instead

[xephonics]

Yeah i do my shake at about 5:40 in the morning, since I cannot really eat either.

Then of course the pwo shake

[Andro9]

food has vitamins and nutrients.. and some benefits we may not even know about. shakes are a great way to get protein, i think a protein is only as good as the amino acids that make it up(how useful they are to me and my goals) and whey is by far the most bioavailible protein there is and has strong BCAA profile so good for bodybuilder. i drank about 3-4 shakes a day when i was cutting last and got a blood test and urine test and liver values and kidney values were only High-Normal and i was running tren! (blood test was done a few weeks after cycle) so dont be afraid to drink shakes. do what fits ya schedule just get all your macros!!

[jamyjamjr]

just keep the shakes to pwo....

the sky is blue...

get it???

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

just keep the shakes to pwo....

the sky is blue...

get it???

Whats wrong with a shake as a meal replacement?

[xephonics]

thats what im wondering, if it is a quality shake with short and long release proteins, and all the vitamins, etc - why can it not be used as a meal replacement?

[T-MOS]

it takes more calories to digest solid food than it does liquids

Shakes have their place, but should NOT be over used. Plus a lot of shakes are full of processed chemicals and sugars that your body really doesn't need.

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Which is why you make your own shakes from scratch I'll leave my calorie burning for the gym, the kitchens for the nutrition side of things IMO

[IM708]

thats what im wondering, if it is a quality shake with short and long release proteins, and all the vitamins, etc - why can it not be used as a meal replacement?

Why do you want to do that?

1). Thats how food allergies form

2). You don't get the same nutrients you find in foods, healthy fats (ex: cla, 0megas) I don't care how much fortifying you do to your protein powder.

3). Here I'll restate this in numbering format so maybe you'll be more receptive. The thermic effect is no where near the same as whole foods.

4). Natural source of creatine inside whole foods like red meats

5). It's a supplement, not meant to be your only protein source. Expensive and unneccisary.

6). Depending on the brand it can be a poor source of some key AA's which is why it's good to variety.

[IM708]

Oh yah add phytonutrients to that list of things you won't find in a protein shake.

[jamyjamjr]

Whats wrong with a shake as a meal replacement?

meal REPLACEMENT... replacement is a horrible word man... why not just processed foods with preservatives while your at it???

im more for a wholistic approach.... eat REAL food

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

meal REPLACEMENT... replacement is a horrible word man... why not just processed foods with preservatives while your at it???

im more for a wholistic approach.... eat REAL food

Well if I'm in a rush or not hungry, I'll make a meal replacement shake

1 cup of liquid egg whites
1 scoop of whey
1 scoop of oats (if carbs are needed)

Whats wrong with that for breakfast?

[IM708]

Well if I'm in a rush or not hungry, I'll make a meal replacement shake

1 cup of liquid egg whites
1 scoop of whey
1 scoop of oats (if carbs are needed)

Whats wrong with that for breakfast?

Low fiber



OP, you also will have less satiety with the use of protein shakes vs whole foods. Low/No fiber being apart of the protein

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Low fiber

Could add psyllium husk, nothing un-natural about that

[IM708]

Could add psyllium husk, nothing un-natural about that

Could is the magic word, you don't currently....and I'm not bring up this unnatural crap.

Where's the healthy fat content to add to satiety?

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Could is the magic word, you don't currently....and I'm not bring up this unnatural crap.

Where's the healthy fat content to add to satiety?

I do actually just forgot to mention it

Sometimes I'll add a tablespoon of natty peanut butter but not too often
usually save that for my meals later on during the day to be honest (when im hungry)

[jamyjamjr]

you could go about this a whole messa ways but in the end you have to understand it will ALWAYS be better to eat real food with the exeption of pwo...

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

I never said shakes were better mate, pay attention - I said theres nothing wrong with shakes.

[xephonics]

It's a supplement, not meant to be your only protein source. Expensive and unneccisary.

I never ask if it could be my ONLY protein source. And my shake costs me $1 per serving of 60grm of protein, all my aminos and bcaa's, fiber, etc. So saying it is expensive is odd,s ince i dont see how i could get the same quality food with the same stats for $1 per serving.

[jamyjamjr]

I never said shakes were better mate, pay attention - I said theres nothing wrong with shakes.

so your saying you'd rather sell your nutrition short?????

shitty additude in my opinion (dont take it the wrong way, im not tryin to flame)

if you wanted things fast, go to mcdonalds while your at it... if you wanna think the BEST for your diet and your body, eat real food...

pay attention....
choice is yours....

[IM708]

I never ask if it could be my ONLY protein source. And my shake costs me $1 per serving of 60grm of protein, all my aminos and bcaa's, fiber, etc. So saying it is expensive is odd,s ince i dont see how i could get the same quality food with the same stats for $1 per serving.

I gave you your damn reasons why its better to go with food sources. thread closed.

[jamyjamjr]

he actually gave you a couple... good ones too

[xephonics]

I only said #5 was off m8

no need to get all mad and such :P

and you people say roid rage is a myth lmfao

[jamyjamjr]

not while your (i'm) on tren... tren will cause roid rage.. at least, in me... not so much test..

[IM708]

I only said #5 was off m8

no need to get all mad and such :P

and you people say roid rage is a myth lmfao

Are you kidding me?

[xephonics]

nah lol

you just seemed to get kinda mad over one retort to one example you gave.

I can see and agree with all you other points. I never said i wanted to replace all or even the majority of mine with a shake though, as shakes taste like butt (as i only mix mine with water). But due to time and money I take 2 a day, but it is still under 1/3 of my total intake.

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

tren will cause roid rage.. at least, in me... not so much test..

LOL you are a joke..

[jamyjamjr]

LOL you are a joke..

im guessing you have exp with tren??

i dont have a hard time sleeping

barely any night sweats

but my aggression is through the roof

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

I down 6 Cytogainers a day.

Bout to bump it to 10.

[IM708]

I down 6 Cytogainers a day.

Bout to bump it to 10.

Hows your cholesterol? Any clogged arteries?

[jamyjamjr]

I down 6 Cytogainers a day.

Bout to bump it to 10.

i dont see how i can argue with a guy who has your exp. but i have to say why the fcuk would you do something like that... can you elaborate????

im not flaming, just curious

[FallenWyvern]

^^^ He is kidding. He hates cytogainer.

[jamyjamjr]

haha... well then, i feel like im in the dark...

[skitz1]

I wouldn't say limit it to only one shake a day. I'll have a whey protein shake post-workout while I'm on my way home from the gym and preparing my meal. But I also always have a casein shake and chicken breast straight before I go to bed.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a whey protein shake directly after a workout while you're preparing a meal and also having a casein shake along side some food protein before bed.

[jamyjamjr]

i have no exp with casein.. dont see why i would need to when there are lean beefs like london broil that would do a better job over night imo..

[skitz1]

I'm not saying to just have the casein shake by itself, I always have it along side a chicken breast or occasionally a steak. But personally, as someone with a fast metabolism, I did start seeing slight differences when I started using casein before bed along side food protein.

[jamyjamjr]

^^noted.. i still like to stick to the whole foods as much as i can...

[skitz1]

Definitely, it also doesn't make the stomach feel as bad.