3º Cycle, looks good?

[jonitec]

Hi everyone. First of all, sorry for my english. i'm sure gonna make a lot of mistakes.

Well, i'm planning my next cycle, i'd like to start it last week of april. this is how it looks


Week------ Test prop-------Boldenone--------Primobolan-------Winstrol-------Nolvadex---------Hcg

1----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg
2----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
3----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
4----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
5----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------200mgE3D--------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
6----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------200mgE3D--------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
7----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
8----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
9----------400mgE3D------------------------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
10------------------------------------------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------

11-->PCT

What do U think? I'm tryin tu get cutted and harder

Thanks

[D7M]

age?
height?
weight?
bf?

answer those questions, then we'll go from there

[CHUCKYthentic]

welcome

could you give us your stats 1st please

age
weight
height
bf%
training and cycle exp

[jonitec]

age?
height?
weight?
bf?

answer those questions, then we'll go from there

27Years
167lb/75gr
1,72m (dont know in feet)
12-13% body fat

trainning all my life, and bodybuilding since 1999
This is going to be my 3º cycle. i did test and bolde before

[CHUCKYthentic]

well 167lbs is very light, you could be cut and hard without AAS for sure

are you trying to add any size as a goal for your cycle?

[jonitec]

well 167lbs is very light, you could be cut and hard without AAS for sure

are you trying to add any size as a goal for your cycle?

im think in gain about 12lb.

[D7M]

1,72m (dont know in feet)

I assume you mean 172cm, right?

that would put you at 5' 6

[CHUCKYthentic]

as for the proposed cycle

test prop needs to be shot ED or EOD minimum
might as weld dump the EQ not running it long enough to get any desirable gains
the primo, as well as the EQ are long esters, so the amount of time you want to run both are worthless due to that

the winny dose is too high IMO

IMO i dont think you need to use the nolva throughout unless signs of gyno arise, if your worried i prefer an AI

HCG, well there is several "protocals" and suggestions, but i dont think you need to start is as early as planned

what is your planned pct?
what did your previous 2 cycles consist of?

[D7M]

other than that,

prop should be shot ed, or eod.

Eq dose is too low, and you're not running it very long.

Primo dose is low.

Winny is fine.

pct is weak.

[jonitec]

I assume you mean 172cm, right?

that would put you at 5' 6

right

[CHUCKYthentic]

oh ok, well i guess 5'6 about 170 isnt too bad

[Dizz28]

Hi everyone. First of all, sorry for my english. i'm sure gonna make a lot of mistakes.

Well, i'm planning my next cycle, i'd like to start it last week of april. this is how it looks


Week------ Test prop-------Boldenone--------Primobolan-------Winstrol-------Nolvadex---------Hcg

1----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg
2----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
3----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
4----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
5----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------200mgE3D--------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
6----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------200mgE3D--------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
7----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
8----------400mgE3D-------300mgE3D-------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
9----------400mgE3D------------------------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
10------------------------------------------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------

11-->PCT

What do U think? I'm tryin tu get cutted and harder

Thanks

Prop Should be shot ED or at the least EOD. Have you ever ran Prop before? do you know about the pain associated with it? 400mgs at once will most likely cripple you if it's dosed right. But you are planning on about 800mgs of prop a week?


EQ should be ran at least 12weeks for it to be effective. Anything less you'll be wasting your time and money. My opinion is it should be ran 500 - 600mgs a week also

Primo - no opinion. Never had the desire to run it therefor don't know anything about it and couldn't give opinion

Winstrol - Is this pill form or injectable? pill form: I'd split the dose into 2 doses per day Injectable: do ED injections of 75mgs instead of EOD 150mg

Nolvadex - don't take it through the whole cycle unless you know for a fact you are gyno prone. Nolvadex is known to significantly reduce GH, IGF levels. Save it either for PCT or keep it on hand if you start to see gyno symptoms

What's your plan for the PCT?

[jonitec]

other than that,

prop should be shot ed, or eod.

Eq dose is too low, and you're not running it very long.

Primo dose is low.

Winny is fine.

pct is weak.

well, the pct start in week 11, but is the 4 weeks long.

11-->100clomid 20nolva
12-->100clomid 20nolva
13-->50clomid 20nolva
14-->50clomid 20 nolva

i can run the bolde one more week if i start the winny in week 6. but primo must be this way because i cant find nofake at this time.

The prop on monday/wed/fryday 150mg each day is better?

[jonitec]

the E3D and EO3 is the way im planning to run them. the mg is per week. 150EOD is 50mon/50Wed/50fryday

[D7M]

nope. if you're goona run prop shoot that at leat eod day, NOT mon/wed/fri.

[jonitec]

nope. if you're goona run prop shoot that at leat eod day, NOT mon/wed/fri.

thats new for me. always i talk about EOD with my "trainer" , he tells me that its mon/wed/fri

How do you shoot EOD

[Dizz28]

thats new for me. always i talk about EOD with my "trainer" , he tells me that its mon/wed/fri

How do you shoot EOD

EOD = every other day

Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun/Tues/Thurs/sat/mon... and so on

[D7M]

thats new for me. always i talk about EOD with my "trainer" , he tells me that its mon/wed/fri

How do you shoot EOD

literally eod.

if you follow your schedule, you'll shoot fri, but then not on sat and sun. that's not exactly eod.

so, mon-wed-fri-sun-tues-thurs-sat.....that would be eod.

[D7M]

lol...

[jonitec]

lol...

jejeje i know what every other day means, but my trainer tells that why shoot on weekend if you are not going to train.

maybe i should change my trainer

[D7M]

well you still want stable blood levels even when you're not training right?

yah, might wanna to look into a new "trainer" bro

[Dizz28]

jejeje i know what every other day means, but my trainer tells that why shoot on weekend if you are not going to train.

maybe i should change my trainer

Do you or your trainer realize that you grow and recover when you aren't training? You don't grow in the gym, it's quite the opposite. When you are at rest, mostly while sleeping, is when you body repairs, rebuilds and grows stronger/bigger

[jonitec]

well you still want stable blood levels even when you're not training right?

yah, might wanna to look into a new "trainer" bro

thanks man, my girl is gonna kill me when i tell her to shoot me mostly every day

[D7M]

lol

I shoot ED when I run prop.

at least your girl does it for you

[jonitec]

lol

I shoot ED when I run prop.

at least your girl does it for you

the angry days are like hell

[jonitec]

finally its going to be:

Week------ Test prop-------Boldenone--------Primobolan-------Winstrol-------Nolvadex---------Hcg

1----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg
2----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
3----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
4----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------400mgE3D-----------------------10mg-----------500ui
5----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------200mgE3D--------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
6----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------200mgE3D--------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
7----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
8----------400mgEOD-------350mgE3D-------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
9----------400mgEOD------------------------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------500ui
10------------------------------------------------------------150mgEOD-----10mg-----------

11-->100mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva Ed
12-->100mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva Ed
13-->50mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva Ed
14-->50mg Clomid ED/20mg Nolva Ed

[Dizz28]

Didn't listen to a word I or anyone else had to say I see... Good luck, next time don't ask if you aren't gonna change anything

[alextg]

400mg eod ? why dont just run 100mg ED ? 150mg winstrol EOD ? cant really understand that ... ur not running primo & eq for along time ... i cant understand why :
1) you seek for advice when ur not willing to listen
2) you dont read read read and educate yourself before trying anything

There are too many ppl in here that have more knowledge and experience in this field.Maybe you should start listening ... i dont think that anyone wants,no more , than helping you ... Anyway choice is yours

[jonitec]

400mg eod ? why dont just run 100mg ED ? 150mg winstrol EOD ? cant really understand that ... ur not running primo & eq for along time ... i cant understand why :
1) you seek for advice when ur not willing to listen
2) you dont read read read and educate yourself before trying anything

There are too many ppl in here that have more knowledge and experience in this field.Maybe you should start listening ... i dont think that anyone wants,no more , than helping you ... Anyway choice is yours

im going to explain it again. when i say 400mgEOD, 400mg is the whole amount of roids by week, and the EOD is the way im going to shoot it, ok?

[Dizz28]

im going to explain it again. when i say 400mgEOD, 400mg is the whole amount of roids by week, and the EOD is the way im going to shoot it, ok?

interesting way of putting it, 400mgs a week is a good dose of prop

Just in the future... word it something like "400mg/wk" instead of "400mg/EOD" so as to not confuse people what you are planning on doing

[Noles12]

Yeah when i saw it i thought you were running about 1600mgs/week of prop

[bmit]

bro,

you really should listen. EQ won't kick in for awhile and right when it is jamming you will be stopping. same with your primo. You need to run them longer. Most people run EQ about 12-18 weeks. Drop your dosage and extend your # weeks

[jonitec]

sorry for the confusion, nxt time i will be crearly jejeje

anyway, thanks for the advice, gonna run longer the eq and the primo.

sorry again bro