gram of tren and test pct suggestions

[techno1318]

im gonna start a cycle for 12 weeks consisting of 1 gram of test. e. and a gram of tren. e. jumped with a bomb for 4 weeks then the last 4 weeks im gonna run anavar at 120 grams a day to cut down is this too toxicity for the liver and suggestions for a propper pct cycle is this cycle gtg

[kaberle_15]

First of all, what are your stats?

[Linuxian]

How many cycles have you done in the past?

[techno1318]

stats im 5'9 205 lbs

[Jfew44]

A gram is a substantial amount of gear for anyone. What were your previous cycles and stats?

[techno1318]

ive done 2 cycle

[Jfew44]

Ok ok, first off, how old are you and whats your bf%? Second, what did those cycles consist of? Third, that is way too much gear for a third cycle. You need to completely revamp the entire idea. Tren e is not a good choice for a 3rd cycle.

[10nispro]

Why so much gear? And I hope thats 120mg of var and not 120 grams.

What were you using on the other 2 cycles? And dosages?

[Jfew44]

Why so much gear? And I hope thats 120mg of var and not 120 grams.

What were you using on the other 2 cycles? And dosages?

Lol, missed the var part. Ya, I'd say 120 grams could be a bit bad for you.

[wackod2]

im gonna start a cycle for 12 weeks consisting of 1 gram of test. e. and a gram of tren. e. jumped with a bomb for 4 weeks then the last 4 weeks im gonna run anavar at 120 grams a day to cut down is this too toxicity for the liver and suggestions for a propper pct cycle is this cycle gtg

to be honest it doesnt sound like you know much about what your doing

[techno1318]

well if tren is not a good choice ill lower it but i am running tren cause ive known people to run test. e. at 750 and decca at 600 jumped with d-bol for there first cycle and they were just fine no side affects

[10nispro]

Deca and tren a totally different my man.

Age?

[techno1318]

im 22 i know they are different point being this not my first cycle how bout running tren at 600 a week

[10nispro]

What were your last cycles?

[wackod2]

im 22 i know they are different point being this not my first cycle how bout running tren at 600 a week

research, you dont know anything man, some people on here cant sleep with 350mg tren a a week yet alone double.... not to mention do you like not being able to catch your breath?

who knows how good or bad you will react

[techno1318]

true true ill rethink the cycle

[Linuxian]

Good man!!

[ricanmafia]

what pisses me off is that nobody answered the question it was a good question and even a good reasercher migth have problems finding the complete answer so lets stop focusing on the wrong part of the story---- yeah yeah i know we wanna get the whole story staight but this is not what is all about--- i leave for a while and when i come back you get grilled for asking a simple question here----- now lets start from scratch----proper pct for tren:

[BIG_TRUCK]

Cut those doses in half and that would be still a lot for someone your size.

[Big]

what pisses me off is that nobody answered the question it was a good question and even a good reasercher migth have problems finding the complete answer so lets stop focusing on the wrong part of the story---- yeah yeah i know we wanna get the whole story staight but this is not what is all about--- i leave for a while and when i come back you get grilled for asking a simple question here----- now lets start from scratch----proper pct for tren:
1-stay away from nolva
if you learn something today let's make it this nolva +tren =bad as with most --19's
that is my 2 cents.

why not use nolva on pct following tren?

[richtries]

what pisses me off is that nobody answered the question it was a good question and even a good reasercher migth have problems finding the complete answer so lets stop focusing on the wrong part of the story---- yeah yeah i know we wanna get the whole story staight but this is not what is all about--- i leave for a while and when i come back you get grilled for asking a simple question here----- now lets start from scratch----proper pct for tren:
1-stay away from nolva
if you learn something today let's make it this nolva +tren =bad as with most --19's
that is my 2 cents.

WTF!? You need to get the whole story in order to give proper advice. So supposedly you cant use nolva for pct with 19 nor´s??? Then what do you suggest using . . . . .

[jab1234]

what pisses me off is that nobody answered the question it was a good question and even a good reasercher migth have problems finding the complete answer so lets stop focusing on the wrong part of the story---- yeah yeah i know we wanna get the whole story staight but this is not what is all about--- i leave for a while and when i come back you get grilled for asking a simple question here----- now lets start from scratch----proper pct for tren:
1-stay away from nolva
if you learn something today let's make it this nolva +tren =bad as with most --19's
that is my 2 cents.

Could you elaborate on why nolva is not recommended as pct for tren? thx

[Big]

Could you elaborate on why nolva is not recommended as pct for tren? thx

no point, he is incorrect. nolva should not be used on cycle with a 19nor such as deca or tren because it can increase the chances of gyno. on pct it is fine, as the compounds have cleared your system before pct begins.

[jab1234]

no point, he is incorrect. nolva should not be used on cycle with a 19nor such as deca or tren because it can increase the chances of gyno. on pct it is fine, as the compounds have cleared your system before pct begins.

That was my understanding but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something here...thanks for the clarification

[Immortal Soldier]

So hey guys I want to take 2 grams of test with a 2 gram kick start of NPP while taking tren at a gram and then run d-bol for 22 weeks and I was wondering can I take drink everynight while I am on cycle or not?

Oh btw I have ran one cycle prior to this, Ronnie Coleman runs cycles like this so I should be fine. More is better right guys?

[gymnerd]

no point, he is incorrect. nolva should not be used on cycle with a 19nor such as deca or tren because it can increase the chances of gyno. on pct it is fine, as the compounds have cleared your system before pct begins.

Yeah, thats what I thought I was kind of starting to get confused there for a sec.LOL

[gymnerd]

So hey guys I want to take 2 grams of test with a 2 gram kick start of NPP while taking tren at a gram and then run d-bol for 22 weeks and I was wondering can I take drink everynight while I am on cycle or not?

Oh btw I have ran one cycle prior to this, Ronnie Coleman runs cycles like this so I should be fine. More is better right guys?

Yup, some people are just determined to destroy their health in order to get the results they THINK they will get. Luckily we can help him.LOL

[ricanmafia]

but every body reacts diferent---------i dunno maybee i just wanna be rigth or is the tren talking yes im on tren and sust----now im jus blabing to hear myself screaming at your avatar!!!

screw u guys im going home!!!

[Big]

any regular tren user knows or has learned the hard way that your best bet is clomid because the tren is a progestin and there is a possibility of prolactin issues which nolvadex as you know have been shown to increase progesterone related sides so AI's then become the only option.---------------------------but every body reacts diferent---------i dunno maybee i just wanna be rigth or is the tren talking yes im on tren and sust----now im jus blabing to hear myself screaming at your avatar!!!

you are confusing the "on-cycle" application and applying it to pct. I've used my share of tren, trust me on this one. you don't start pct until the tren has cleared your system, so your point has no validity.

[ricanmafia]

ok then i was wrong i will edit my prior im sooo sorry

[Big]

ok then i was wrong i will edit my prior im sooo sorry

no need to be sorry bro, don't mean to call you out just your post was confusing those that don't know better.

[ricanmafia]

its all good thats why we are here in a nice intelectual debate peace

[Big]

yep we're all here learning together. whenever I start to feel smart I go read posts by Musclescience, by the time I have to look up 3 or 4 words I realize how far I have to go myself.