First Cycle: Equipoise and Winstrol?

[taylor m 14]

I am looking to start a cycle for the first time.
Im 6'1' 185lbs at about 12% body fat.
I do not want to get huge and blow up like a body builder but would like to get cut with of course good strength gains.
I heard equipoise and winstrol are great together with just the two of them but on the other hand heard it was dumb to not have testosterone somewhere in the mix.
What do you guys suggest?

[Noles12]

First off how old are you? How long have you been training?
Second dont run a cycle without test
Third run just test as a first cycle with maybe a dbol kickstart

[Deltasaurus]

u need to read bro thats a horrible first cycle.
good first cycle is 20pounds natty from eating and training properly for more than 2 years then good first cycle Test E or C by its self 400-500mg a week for 12 weeks with proper PCT.

-AJ

[taylor m 14]

Im 20 and only looking to take one cycle.
I want to be able to keep as much as my gains as possible and was told equipoise is great for that
And i am only looking to put on about 10 lbs of lean muscle with little water retention

[Noles12]

Well you will be shut down and wont be producing test. This is why you are better off running only test. Also for little gains you can achieve this natural with a better diet.

[taylor m 14]

what kind of test do you suggest?
and will I be able to keep most of my gains with pct?

[Noles12]

Test E 500mg/week split into two doses of 250 mg every 3.5 days.
What is your proposed PCT?

[taylor m 14]

havent really thought about that yet
any ideas for keeping the most gains possible?

[taylor m 14]

and for how many weeks do you suggest that test dosage

[Noles12]

You need to do a lot of research before starting anything.
The test should be run for 12 weeks and pct 2 weeks after last injection
A good PCT could be:
Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

[taylor m 14]

alright thanks
i would also like to take something with few side effects.
is there anything else you would recommed taking besides test e

[Noles12]

I really wouldnt recommend you cycling at all. You have no knowledge when it comes to AAS and you need to do your research. I have basically had to tell you everything about everything. That shows me you have not read anything on this board. You also could gain another 15 pounds naturally before using AAS. Run test only as a first cycle after you research and understand what you are doing

[taylor m 14]

I have done a lot of research on the two steroids my original question was about. I was looking for something with few side effects and that I would be able to keep my gains with so equipoise sounded perfect. I have read numerous articles about how it shouldnt be taken alone and how it is best with winstrol. So all that made sense the me. I just hadnt read anywhere that that is a terrible first cycle.

[jbm]

Test E 500mg/week split into two doses of 250 mg every 3.5 days.
What is your proposed PCT?

Bro this is the advice that most of our members will give for first cycle!

[jbm]

one more thing 20 is still young for AAS...

[taylor m 14]

well i have taken a couple of cycles of the pro hormone R.A.G.E.
but im guessing you would still suggest the test e

[taylor m 14]

i play college baseball and aas is already everywhere.
i might as well even out the playing field if everyone else is doing it

[jbm]

Test Enanthate should be run for 12 weeks 500mg a week 250mg every 3.5days and pct 2 weeks after last injection
A good PCT could be:
Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50.

I think this is what you'll be getting from most of the members bro.
If you don't wanna be huge it's up to your training and diet.