Test E Tren A cycle

[illwillogical]

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I have one cycle under my belt Test E and Dbol Test E 500mg 1-12, dbol 30mg 1-4

I am going to start another cycle at the end of this month or if my bloodwork is good next week.

I want to run Test E 600mg a week shot everyday with Tren A 50mg a day. I know most people run Prop with Tren. If I run Tren with Test E, should I wait for a few weeks to start the Tren so the Test kicks in first? For my first time with Tren is 350mg per week good, or should I go a little higher?

[T-MOS]

2nd cycle NOT a good idea to go with tren !!!

[illwillogical]

2nd cycle NOT a good idea to go with tren !!!

Yeah, I have heard that, no one has really ever given me a good reason why. I know the sides, I don't see why they would be any different whether this was my 2nd cycle or my 5th. But I welcome a good explanation.

[T-MOS]

Yeah, I have heard that, no one has really ever given me a good reason why. I know the sides, I don't see why they would be any different whether this was my 2nd cycle or my 5th. But I welcome a good explanation.

The difference between your second cylce, and 5th is EXPERIENCE
you need to build up to Tren since it has the HARSHEST sides

by using deca first, you will see how your body reacts to a stronger compound, see how you deal with it, then build from that knowledge

if you start with tren , you may have NO clue how bad the sides will be for you, so you may get them so bad that you have to stop the cycle, as MANY have done

by waiting , you learn and then become better able to deal with stronger sides and knowing what to expect, and knowing what you need to do to handle them

but its your body, at least you are starting with Tren A.

If you have some prop, i would use it to kickstart with the test E

although I think you are FINE to start both at same time as even though your blood levels wont' build up for several weeks, there should be enough Test in your system to cover what you lose from being shut down

[illwillogical]

The difference between your second cylce, and 5th is EXPERIENCE
you need to build up to Tren since it has the HARSHEST sides

by using deca first, you will see how your body reacts to a stronger compound, see how you deal with it, then build from that knowledge

if you start with tren , you may have NO clue how bad the sides will be for you, so you may get them so bad that you have to stop the cycle, as MANY have done

by waiting , you learn and then become better able to deal with stronger sides and knowing what to expect, and knowing what you need to do to handle them

but its your body, at least you are starting with Tren A.

If you have some prop, i would use it to kickstart with the test E

although I think you are FINE to start both at same time as even though your blood levels wont' build up for several weeks, there should be enough Test in your system to cover what you lose from being shut down

I have 2000mg of prop how would you consider kickstarting? 50mg a day in addition to the Test E?

[T-MOS]

I have 2000mg of prop how would you consider kickstarting? 50mg a day in addition to the Test E?

Yep, that sounds good to me

but again, I still dont' recommend using Tren YET

[laduem88]

The difference between your second cylce, and 5th is EXPERIENCE
you need to build up to Tren since it has the HARSHEST sides

by using deca first, you will see how your body reacts to a stronger compound, see how you deal with it, then build from that knowledge

if you start with tren , you may have NO clue how bad the sides will be for you, so you may get them so bad that you have to stop the cycle, as MANY have done

by waiting , you learn and then become better able to deal with stronger sides and knowing what to expect, and knowing what you need to do to handle them

but its your body, at least you are starting with Tren A.

If you have some prop, i would use it to kickstart with the test E

although I think you are FINE to start both at same time as even though your blood levels wont' build up for several weeks, there should be enough Test in your system to cover what you lose from being shut down

i see where your coming from T but shouldent everyone expect/prepare for the worst going into a cycle?

[T-MOS]

i see where your coming from T but shouldent everyone expect/prepare for the worst going into a cycle?

YEP, and thats why if he has the prop, i would use it for the first two or three weeks , as I stated !!!

[briancb1]

Save it for down the road when you don't respond as well to the cheap and affective drugs that are readily available. At this point it wouldn't matter if you ran low dose test/deca or test/tren, the muscle you gain would probably be the same. You arn't 40lbs of shredded muscle over your natural limit. Save it for when you need something more potent from your arsenal.

Are you going to hammering your glutes/quads for the 5-6 weeks your on tren A? You should rotate injection sites if you do ED injects (IMO).

You have no experience with a 19-nor, a progestin, what are you going to use to block progesterone type sides? You have 0 experience with a progestin and you're going for the most hardcore one.

[Alphatier]

What T-Mos said....Tren isn't for beginners.

[Hazard]

^^^^ i agree - i'd look into something like this.....

1-13 Test E - 600mg's/wk
1-12 Deca - 400mg's/wk
1-4 Anadrol or Dbol 50mg's/ed

~Haz~

[illwillogical]

^^^^ i agree - i'd look into something like this.....

1-13 Test E - 600mg's/wk
1-12 Deca - 400mg's/wk
1-4 Anadrol or Dbol 50mg's/ed

~Haz~

Thanks, that is actually exactly one of the cycles that I had in mind. But I only have 2400mg of Deca right now. So thats one of the reasons I'm thinking about converting some Fina to try it, or I may just wait till I go back to Thailand. Just thinking what to do next.

[Jfew44]

Thanks, that is actually exactly one of the cycles that I had in mind. But I only have 2400mg of Deca right now. So thats one of the reasons I'm thinking about converting some Fina to try it, or I may just wait till I go back to Thailand. Just thinking what to do next.

Just make sure you know what you're doing bro.

My advice would be to wait it out, but if you really want to, go for it.

[Jfew44]

If you want to go for the tren, then go for it. I personally think it's a bad idea and would recommend something else. Are you ready to pin ED? That alone is a pretty good deterrent for a 2nd cycle.

[illwillogical]

If you want to go for the tren, then go for it. I personally think it's a bad idea and would recommend something else. Are you ready to pin ED? That alone is a pretty good deterrent for a 2nd cycle.

Yeah I don't mind pinning everyday, though I would prefer not too. If Tren A don't bother me then I want to run Tren E the cycle after this.

[Ashop]

If you want to go for the tren, then go for it. I personally think it's a bad idea and would recommend something else. Are you ready to pin ED? That alone is a pretty good deterrent for a 2nd cycle.

The pinning daily will become tiresome and since your new with TREN I think you would be better off with TREN 75MG EOD.

[laduem88]

The pinning daily will become tiresome and since your new with TREN I think you would be better off with TREN 75MG EOD.

i was thinking about running tren eod but everyone says ed is a must

[inky-e]

Stats
28
5'9
200
15%bf
I have one cycle under my belt Test E and Dbol Test E 500mg 1-12, dbol 30mg 1-4

I am going to start another cycle at the end of this month or if my bloodwork is good next week.

I want to run Test E 600mg a week shot everyday with Tren A 50mg a day. I know most people run Prop with Tren. If I run Tren with Test E, should I wait for a few weeks to start the Tren so the Test kicks in first? For my first time with Tren is 350mg per week good, or should I go a little higher?

No you don't have to wait...and 350 is fine for a first timer...just remember tren will hinder your cardio and endurance...keep that in mind...if you don't want the ed jabs then 100mg's 3x a week will do .

[Immortal Soldier]

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No you don't have to wait...and 350 is fine for a first timer...just remember tren will hinder your cardio and endurance...keep that in mind...if you don't want the ed jabs then 100mg's 3x a week will do .

So your advising him to run tren from the get go even though the test-e won't build up in his system till 4-5 weeks?

[laduem88]

run it with test p since for one your going to be pinning ed anyway and two because you want to run short esters with short esters...im looking on doing tren ace for my 2nd cycle also..i went back and forth on either npp or tren and im going with tren.

[illwillogical]

run it with test p since for one your going to be pinning ed anyway and two because you want to run short esters with short esters...im looking on doing tren ace for my 2nd cycle also..i went back and forth on either npp or tren and im going with tren.

I would run Prop but I don't have enough that's why I was going to run the Test E. I still have a month to decide what I'm going to do, I'm just brainstorming.

[laduem88]

I would run Prop but I don't have enough that's why I was going to run the Test E. I still have a month to decide what I'm going to do, I'm just brainstorming.

test p is cheap...just get some more