Lets say for a 500mg test e cycle for 10-12 weeks. Can I just do the standard 40/20/20/10 nolvadex cycle or is clomid and absolute must?
Lets say for a 500mg test e cycle for 10-12 weeks. Can I just do the standard 40/20/20/10 nolvadex cycle or is clomid and absolute must?
Sure you could,but recovery would be better by adding clomid.Everybody is different tho,i know at my age i would have to use everything to recover.
Most recommend at least Nolva and Clomid. They have been said to act on different things to help get Testosterone going again. Something about LH and HPTA. I sure someone will chime in with the scientific answer.
The last forums I belonged too.... I really never heard about clomid.. more so only nolvadex........ But it was also not as much steroid stuff as there is here on this forums.
why would u want to cut something out of ur pct. just buy the clomid bro
you sure can recover fine with nolva only....
I've done it.
recovered from prop only cycle in about 3-4 wks. no nasty clomid sides.
i think clomid sides are over rated...if you take it right before bed you will sleep through all the sides..but one time i couldent sleep and lets just say i got depressed. also clomid gave me acne like no other but hey it worked
to the OP i would run nolva like this:
40/40/20/20/20
depending on how your feeling run it for 5 weeks, 4 will be fine though
Why wouldn't you want to run Clomid? It's cheap and effective and will synergistically work with the nolvadex at getting your balls working quicker and thus retaining more gains from your cycle. It works via a different pathway then the nolvadex on LH and FSH.
Well in some places Clomid, Nolva and alike are hard to come by.
I know where I am it is even harder to get then aas are.
Perhaps thats why he asks![]()
Its not really availability I'm just wondering if it is possible, because it would save me some money
Did the same cycle and ran nolva only 40 40 20 20. np
Clomid is a favoured addition or option but nolva is ok.
Nolvadex and Clomid are both cheap. Not sure where you get it but for me I've noticed a negligible difference in price between the two. Do your nuts a favor and run both. Now with that being said everyone responds differently, and like I said earlier the sooner you restart normal HPTA function the more gains you'll keep and the sooner you'll rid that shitty PCT feeling.
On my 3rd week of pct from my first cycle of test-p 500mg/wk for 8 weeks and i feel great again and i'm just running 40 40 20 20 nolva. Just my experience so far, I guess everyone is different.
yea it just helps get back to where you need to be faster. Its prb mostly pushed on here as a must for basic pct because its sold on here.
Thank YOU!
And for your previous post.
Im currently working on additions to my sticky at the top of Q&A here, and they will be finished by the end of the day...
Just a little note,
In just 7 days of Clomid use at 100mgs ED is enough to raise LH and FSH by as much as 50%. You will need nolva also, as the point of these serms is to block estrogen receptors in the HPTA to fool it, and to tell the pituitary to start producing it's own LH and FSH.
This amoung MANY other reasons is why Clomid should be included in PCT.
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