test/d-bol

[beerpong]

Still planning my first Test E 250 cycle and researching more info. Newayz I plan to run 500mg/week which i will inject 250mg every 3.5 day during the week but I would like to run d-bol as a kick starter to my cycle. Would you recommend using d-bol for my first cycle? I read some threads that said its optional but also read some that said test e should be taken alone to see how you body reacts to aas. Ive been looking 10mg/tab how many tabs would you recommend a day if so? Also i heard its better to take on a empty?

Thanks in advance

[Mass22]

DO THIS

Weeks 1-10 - 500mgs Testosterone Enanthate
weeks 1-4 20mg/40mg naposim
Weeks 1-12 – 50 mgs Proviron
Weeks 11+12: Pregnyl 3 χ 2500 /WEEK + NOLVA 10/ED
Weeks 13 – Clomid 100/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
14 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
15 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
16 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED

[jbm]

Better test E only bro! coz it's your first cycle!
Height?
Age?
Weight?
Body Fat %?
Years training?

[jbm]

DO THIS

Weeks 1-10 - 500mgs Testosterone Enanthate
weeks 1-4 20mg/40mg naposim
Weeks 1-12 – 50 mgs Proviron
Weeks 11+12: Pregnyl 3 χ 2500 /WEEK + NOLVA 10/ED
Weeks 13 – Clomid 100/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
14 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
15 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
16 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED

Don't agree with this.

[sigman roid]

Don't agree with this.

neither do i, way to complicated for a simple cycle

[beerpong]

Better test E only bro! coz it's your first cycle!
Height?
Age?
Weight?
Body Fat %?
Years training?

My stats:
Height: 5'9
Age: 25
Weight: 156lbs
Body Fat: 9% last i checked
Years Training: 6 years

Normal day diet:
Morning: 2cups milk, 2 scoops whey protein, 1 cup of protein
1hr later: 4-5 scrambled eggs w/ backed beans and toast
Afternoon: Grilled chicken with rice
1hr later: creatine + shake
Midday: Tuna sandwich and steam veggies
Dinner: ground beef/ whole wheat pasta
Before Bed: cottage cheese/with apples + shake

Its hard to eat while working a full time job and going to school full time. I plan to do my aas cycle this summer because i can concentrate in getting more calories and rest without worry about school.

So you wouldnt recommend the d-bol as a kick starter for my first cycle? Just stick with the test 500mg/week for 1-12 weeks?

[romo6]

You could kick start if you want.You really need more calories especially at 156.Good luck.

[busaboy27]

DO THIS

Weeks 1-10 - 500mgs Testosterone Enanthate
weeks 1-4 20mg/40mg naposim
Weeks 1-12 – 50 mgs Proviron
Weeks 11+12: Pregnyl 3 χ 2500 /WEEK + NOLVA 10/ED
Weeks 13 – Clomid 100/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
14 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
15 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED
16 – Clomid 50/ED + NOLVA 20/ED

no way.... cant give him a suggested cycle before he even post his stats and as u can see he weights nothing.. needs to get his diet first

[busaboy27]

you dont need a cycle .. get on a diet first.. you will get big and lose it all.. u can do it naturally.. u should weigh 175 pounds no problem on a diet.. plus your not gonna grow unless u eat enough on cycle either.. post up your stats in diet section and someone will help you with that

[beerpong]

You could kick start if you want.You really need more calories especially at 156.Good luck.

Last i check 156lbs for my age and height was in the healthy/normal range

[busaboy27]

well than if its normal for your age why do you want to even go on than? im just telling you get to the diet section.. u take steroids when u reached you maximum potential and your about 20-25 pounds off of that. your my height and i too am eating right and the weight keeps going up..

[beerpong]

Its easier said that done. Like i said becuase of work its school its kinda hard to eat like a 200lbs man that whys i would like to start in the summer when im on break. I have read the diet forum by jamyjamjr and yes i know i still have to tweek to my diet and its no where close to being perfect or good.

[busaboy27]

your gonna have to tweak it on cycle even more... says you been training for 6 years jsut think if u would have ate right that whole time you would been 200 pounds by now. imo...


85% diet
10% lifting
5% gear

not exact measurement but its a point

u need to put some weight on.. first. then see were it goes from there.. just making suggestion.. cause i was in the same boat and i didnt have anyone helping me..

[beerpong]

6 years on and off because of school and work. I have a very high metabolsim rate and i had injured myself snowboarding last year. I did weight 166 lbs but lost it from not going to gym. It will be a matter of time before i can reach my original weight again but im a very hard gainer. Yes i know i could increase my carb/calorie in take to reach more weight but like i said i dont have that kind of money or time to do that right now

[beerpong]

Though i also neglect doing my legs as well sometimes. I know if gave my legs workouts a little attention im sure i could add more muscle mass/weight.

[busaboy27]

its your body.. you will do what you want.. but i say do it right or dont do it at all..

the money its gonna cost for your pct.. and like i said your gonna have to eat no matter what.. when you come off your gonna lose it.. back at square one again..

[beerpong]

its your body.. you will do what you want.. but i say do it right or dont do it at all..

the money its gonna cost for your pct.. and like i said your gonna have to eat no matter what.. when you come off your gonna lose it.. back at square one again..

Yeah i doubt that. My friend ran a ass cycle. Hes in the same boat as me works a full time job and school. After running his pct he did lose a little weight but maintained most of his gains. I assume the weight he lost was from the water retention (bloat) and coming off aas cycle. I see what your trying to say that diet is key and i agree. I know my friend didn't exactly have the cleanest diet either but he did eat a lot more on his cycle.

[eatrainrest]

My stats:
Height: 5'9
Age: 25
Weight: 156lbs
Body Fat: 9% last i checked
Years Training: 6 years

Normal day diet:
Morning: 2cups milk, 2 scoops whey protein, 1 cup of protein
1hr later: 4-5 scrambled eggs w/ backed beans and toast
Afternoon: Grilled chicken with rice
1hr later: creatine + shake
Midday: Tuna sandwich and steam veggies
Dinner: ground beef/ whole wheat pasta
Before Bed: cottage cheese/with apples + shake

Its hard to eat while working a full time job and going to school full time. I plan to do my aas cycle this summer because i can concentrate in getting more calories and rest without worry about school.

So you wouldnt recommend the d-bol as a kick starter for my first cycle? Just stick with the test 500mg/week for 1-12 weeks?

this diet is in need of extreme help, come to the diet forum so we can help you out tremendously, cand do gear without a solid eating/training regime first

[busaboy27]

i tried to tell him that the last 5 times i posted on this page lol

and here is #6

get your diet in check

[eatrainrest]

Hey OP, i forgot to tell you.. get to the diet forum!!!!!!!

[cg1583]

sounds like hes asking for input , then doesnt want to hear the answer. no offense but these guys are giving you good advise that will work....except i also disagree with the post on the dbol cycle... always test only for your first run...imo

[cg1583]

also if you dont have time to diet right as it is, and are short on cash, a cycle is DEFIANTLY not the way to go. it cost a lot to do it right...supplements, food, pct, test, etc....

[eatrainrest]

also if you dont have time to diet right as it is, and are short on cash, a cycle is DEFIANTLY not the way to go. it cost a lot to do it right...supplements, food, pct, test, etc....

yes yes yes.. get what you really need a good diet/training regime

[beerpong]

Ok i will try to out the diet forum. Hopefully they can help with a diet that wont break the bank. Me and roomates consider ourselves ballers on a budget.