dbol & win?

[lil-bit-SLIM]

Hello, I am not new to the site I just cant recover my password for some reason. But I have been away from the forum for about a year...

I have both winstrol and Dbol and was wondering if anyone has ever taken them both together? How was that experience? what were the specs of your cycle?

I know...I know... dbol is typically for bulking and winstol for cutting...My first two cycles I ran dbol at the begining and winstrol at the end both times with Test E. But this time I'm thinking Test P + winstrol + Dbol all together. I would take the Dbol in a light dose just to add some strength. The goal of the cycle is a clean bulk.

[T-MOS]

Welcome back. I can see if ADMIN can track your old account for you if you want to post your original name here

as far as the cycle goes we need complete stats in order to give the right advice

age
height
weight
bodyfat%
PCT knowledge

you can make that cycle work as long as you use the test, i would run the dbol for 4 weeks in the beginning, then run the winny the last 6 weeks right up to the day before PCT. If your winny is oral, that would be 10 weeks of orals, so I would make sure you had some liver support

[lil-bit-SLIM]

age: 24
height: 6'3
weight: 185
bodyfat: very lean

Cycle
6 weeks prop 100 EOD
week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
week 3-7 Win 30mg ED

PCT
Clomid + Nova= typical dosage


...I would really like to through some mast into this too, as its my favorite

[lil-bit-SLIM]

and yes I know Im a lil-bit-slim...

I used to be 210...trying to get back up to around 200!

[lil-bit-SLIM]

T-mos...my original account was lil-SLIM but I dont use the same email anymore and can't remember the password

Thank you for your help!

[Phate]

can we get a pic, i seriously think you are not ready for AS yet

[T-MOS]

T-mos...my original account was lil-SLIM but I dont use the same email anymore and can't remember the password

Thank you for your help!

I let admin know, so maybe they can help

[T-MOS]

can we get a pic, i seriously think you are not ready for AS yet

agreed ! at 6'3", you should be able to get to 230-240 NATURALLY before ever needing steroids.

let Phate take a look at your diet, he is a diet guru !!

[lil-bit-SLIM]

ok I'll post it...I'll have to dig it up from my old account

[lil-bit-SLIM]

Meal 1 protien + carbs
5 eggs scrambled w salsa
bowl of plain oatmeal + splenda or cinnamin
1 cup of yogurt
cup of orangejuice

cal= 1039.5
fat= 43.3
sat= 19.6
sod= 1048.5
carb= 107.4
pro= 52.9

Snack 1 protien + veg
protien bar
2 handfulls of almonds
salad w lowfat dressing

cal= 623
fat= 42.1
sat= 3
sod= 254
carb= 56.7
pro = 21.6


Meal 2 protien + veg
fish/chicken/steak (I switch it up)
Black or pinto beans

cal= 467
fat= 22.5
sat= 4.5
sod= 569
carb= 20
pro= 46.7


One Hour Workout

PWO protien + carbs 10 min after workout
whey protien shake w 2 whole eggs
Banana

cal = 452
fat = 16
sat = 5
sod = 331
carb= 40.78
pro = 36.6


shower then right into...

Meal 3 protien + veg
fish/chicken/steak
peas/green beans

cal= 524
fat = 16.6
sat = 4.6
sod = 179
carb= 6.1
pro = 82.6

Snack 2 protien + fat
can of tuna sometimes mixed w salsa/pinto beans
2 handfulls almonds
2 low fat string cheese

cal = 459
fat = 21
sat = 7.6
sod = 306
carb= 2
pro = 61.8


Meal 4 protien + fat
chicken breast
few rice cakes w peanut butter

cal= 511
fat= 21
sat= 3.9
sod= 254
carb= 6
pro= 14.3

Before Bed protien
good amount of cottage chease sometimes w pinneaple/avacado
casien protien shake w milk

cal= 290
fat= 7
sat= 3
sod= 630
carb= 18
pro= 37


Total

cal=4369.5
fat=189.5
sat=51.2
sod=3571.5
carb=256.98
pro=353.5


This is the diet I used during my last cycle and it would look similar during this one except im going to throw in some bown rice and sweet patatoe and maybe cut down some of the cals in the first meal

I realize im pretty thin right now...there was sorta a chain of events that lead to me loosing atleast 20lbs... Im just trying to get back to where I was!

[lil-bit-SLIM]

lol...and No I'm not going to post a pic! I look pretty good on the beach but not nearly the monster that most of the guys here are

[Phate]

is that the diet you are using NOW or just on cycle

[lil-bit-SLIM]

havent been on a training diet recently...was planning on getting my diet straight again and then attempting this cycle in ~Sept

[lil-bit-SLIM]

I was originally wondering if I could do the cycle more like this...

Cycle
6 weeks prop 100 EOD
week 1-6 Dbol 30mg ED
week 1-6Win 30mg ED

[T-MOS]

I was originally wondering if I could do the cycle more like this...

Cycle
6 weeks prop 100 EOD
week 1-6 Dbol 30mg ED
week 1-6Win 30mg ED

I don't like that at all, but maybe someone else will have a better idea.

To me that looks counter productive as dbol will make you retain water and give strength increase ( water retention is needed to help joints when strength shoots up quickly)
and the winny drys you out, so.... doesn't look good to me at all, but thats JMHO

and 30mg of winny is pointless, 50 is the usually minimum

The whole point in stacking compounds is to stack ones that work well together, not to mention that is 6 weeks of two harsh orals

[lil-bit-SLIM]

thats sorta the response I expected...

How do you feel about doing winstrol and mast in the same cycle?

[chuckt12345]

role it to 8 wks,, drop the dbol,, start winny in week 3

and if i could get to 230 240 naturally at 6'3" there would be no point to juice.

[lil-bit-SLIM]

Honestly I could not get to 230-240 natty and wouldnt even wanna get that big on AAS...I was always extremely skinny growing up, my natural weight is like 165.

so how about this cycle...

week 1-6 Test P 100mgs EOD
week 1-8 Mast P 200mgs EOD
week 3-7 Win 50mgs ED

[lil-bit-SLIM]

I like the idea of a 6 wk cycle...nice and quick! My other cycles were always 12wks and I always experienced a bit of depression/fatigue during my PCT...I'm hoping that a shorter cycle will help alleviate this problem.

[laduem88]

role it to 8 wks,, drop the dbol,, start winny in week 3

and if i could get to 230 240 naturally at 6'3" there would be no point to juice.

x2 drop the dbol bro...you dont need a kick start on prop...if you dont run the dbol you can run the winny longer