Heads wrecked, want to pin but...

[gettintherequick]

....My source can get me sus/deca thats what he reccommends, don't know what concentration yet but he mentioned the quantity of 3ml.I have my heart set on doing a cycle or two, had a designer cycle set up of Superdrol followed by PCT.

My source says its much safer and easier to keep the gains of a sus/deca 12week cycle.

Firstly, I thought a 12 week cycle would shut me down beyond repair??? I mean how can you run a steroid for that long and not be shut down?

Secondly, how "safe" is a cycle like this compared to a designer steroid cycle?

Thanks in advance!

[busaboy27]

need some stats

age
height
weight
body fat
training expericence

[WARMachine]

....My source can get me sus/deca thats what he reccommends, don't know what concentration yet but he mentioned the quantity of 3ml.I have my heart set on doing a cycle or two, had a designer cycle set up of Superdrol followed by PCT.

My source says its much safer and easier to keep the gains of a sus/deca 12week cycle. Safe? Pshh...

Firstly, I thought a 12 week cycle would shut me down beyond repair??? I mean how can you run a steroid for that long and not be shut down? About 1 shot of Deca would be enough to shut down your HPTA. Thats the beauty of PCT though.

Secondly, how "safe" is a cycle like this compared to a designer steroid cycle?

Thanks in advance!

I would like to add that PCT doesnt magically restart your natural test production, as many ppl who get bloods done on a regular basis can attest to. It can take months after PCT (or even years before full HPTA function is restored) and only in part in some cases.

The idea of time on + PCT = time off is a sound one, but in truth, even that amount of time off is insufficient in many cases to restore full HPTA function

[gettintherequick]

need some stats

age
height
weight
body fat
training expericence

21
5"10"ish
11stone 2, not sure what that is in pounds...damn metric lol.
9/10%
5years casual, 1year really strict and serious lifting.

[jfalco]

what is a designer steroid cycle?

[busaboy27]

your a little young for steroids..... wait a couple years.. or you will mess yourself up permanently

[gettintherequick]

what is a designer steroid cycle?

Legal steroids eg M-drol, epistane, trenadol etc....

[busaboy27]

what is a designer steroid cycle?

he means pro-hormone or otc counter.. gnc type stuff

[jfalco]

1 stone = 14 lbs

so you weigh about 157 lbs

[busaboy27]

oh and weight being said your way to light to start too.. get over to the diet section and they will help you out

[gettintherequick]

your a little young for steroids..... wait a couple years.. or you will mess yourself up permanently

as in i will DEF mess myself up??

Already ran a DS cycle (3AD).

If the body can repair itsself after fatal illnesses and injuries, how can it not bounce back after a low dose steroid cycle with proper PCT??

[jfalco]

From what I hear pro-hormones are all the sides w/o much of the good. I've never done any of them.

[busaboy27]

shutting down your natural test at a young age and fusing your growth plates together.. and so on.. body repairing itslef from an accident has nothing to do with what steroids would do to your body.. at a young age

[gettintherequick]

Prohormones and DS are very different...

A DS is an orally active compound just like dianabol, many prefere M-Drol (DS)than DBol....

Prohormones convert to steroids via the digestive system...not as potent.

[gettintherequick]

shutting down your natural test at a young age and fusing your growth plates together.. and so on.. body repairing itslef from an accident has nothing to do with what steroids would do to your body.. at a young age

Very true...how irritating. IMHO i don't see how using steroids at 21 is any dif than using at 25....Everyone is different some ppl stay in a puberic state til 27.

Saying that, i know you are right.

But i believe a cycle could still be ran safrly and properly at 21.

[busaboy27]

well wait and see till a veteran to this site chimes in. see what everyone else has to say and also the people who did a cycle young. you will see that they wish they never did

[chuckt12345]

Very true...how irritating. IMHO i don't see how using steroids at 21 is any dif than using at 25....Everyone is different some ppl stay in a puberic state til 27.

Saying that, i know you are right.

But i believe a cycle could still be ran safrly and properly at 21.

It def can be its just not advised.

[jfalco]

Very true...how irritating. IMHO i don't see how using steroids at 21 is any dif than using at 25....Everyone is different some ppl stay in a puberic state til 27.

Saying that, i know you are right.

But i believe a cycle could still be ran safrly and properly at 21.

Basically what you're saying is that you know you shouldn't do steroids, but you are going to do them anyway, so why ask for advice that you have already decided to ignore.

BTW orrally active steroids are not safer than injected. In fact for the most part the opposite is true. I still don't understand what you mean by designer steroids. DBol (your example) is a regular old steroid.

[gettintherequick]

well wait and see till a veteran to this site chimes in. see what everyone else has to say and also the people who did a cycle young. you will see that they wish they never did

Im not arguing with you, i said i know you are right.

Alot of the horror stories are directly from improper PCT.

What sort of problems are likely to be encountered later in life if pinning "properly" at my age??

[gettintherequick]

Basically what you're saying is that you know you shouldn't do steroids, but you are going to do them anyway, so why ask for advice that you have already decided to ignore.

BTW orrally active steroids are not safer than injected. In fact for the most part the opposite is true. I still don't understand what you mean by designer steroids. DBol (your example) is a regular old steroid.

1. haven't decided or ignored anything, stocking up on all the knowlege i need then making a calculated decision.

2.I said my source told me that pinning is safer than orals.Not the other way round as you stated.

3.A designer steroid is a legal clone of a steroid. Made orally active by methylating it.They get banned all the time but the companies just tweak a thing or two and there back on the market again. Look up M-Drol via google.

[busaboy27]

Im not arguing with you, i said i know you are right.

Alot of the horror stories are directly from improper PCT.

What sort of problems are likely to be encountered later in life if pinning "properly" at my age??

well there is no proper way to pin cause of your age.. the reason you wait for it is so that your body is done growing and you dont mess your test levels up permanently.. anyways and another thing is that you are not even close to weighing enough..
i just flat out told u for several post.. are you just fishing for a loop so taht you can convince yourself to take it?

[busaboy27]

and your source told u to take decca for the first cycle.. thats wrong too...

[gettintherequick]

Yeah actually i think i am lokking for a loop.

Ok well looks like its a bad idea all round then...

Just have to wait til im 25 or so.jeeez.

Thanks guys

[jfalco]

1. haven't decided or ignored anything, stocking up on all the knowlege i need then making a calculated decision.

2.I said my source told me that pinning is safer than orals.Not the other way round as you stated.

3.A designer steroid is a legal clone of a steroid. Made orally active by methylating it.They get banned all the time but the companies just tweak a thing or two and there back on the market again. Look up M-Drol via google.

Ok I get it. I misunderstood you example. I thought you were saying dbol was a designer steroid. Now I understand what you mean.

You source is right that injectables are generally safer than orals and I wasn't arguing with that. It seemed in your first post like you thought your source was wrong. Again I misunderstood what you were saying.

Anyway glad you're here. Eventually one of the vets will chime in and talk some sense into you.

[gettintherequick]

Ok I get it. I misunderstood you example. I thought you were saying dbol was a designer steroid. Now I understand what you mean.

You source is right that injectables are generally safer than orals and I wasn't arguing with that. It seemed in your first post like you thought your source was wrong. Again I misunderstood what you were saying.

Anyway glad you're here. Eventually one of the vets will chime in and talk some sense into you.

thanks...think i need it, i have my DS's reasearched for 6months straight, got them down to a tee. Its only recently that iv found out i can get legit aas.Not anywhere near as knowlegable on these things.