Bit of guidance ?

[TypeDan]

Hi,

Obviousily I'm new here, I recently brought some Dianabol, I only bought a month's worth- now I dont think thats enough.

I have grown , ym chest and arms, my back too, but I dont know if thats becuase Ive been working hard at the gym, or what.

I was taking 25 mg a day, at breakfast , midday, afternoon, and before I go to Gym

Im not a very big guy anyway,

145 pounds,

As it goes- im faily lean,


What stack etc, can I use to get decent results,

I just want to be bigger, and HOW long do i take it for,

what do i take after my cycles

If anyone could shed any light

Much appreciated. When it comes down to it, im faily new to this.

[CBGB]

Everything about this is wrong.

Age
weight
B/f
gym experience
cycle experience
Do you know what pct is?

Answer these first please

[TypeDan]

Im 21
145 pounds
not sure on my bodyfat, I can alays post a picture
Gym experience, probably about a year, havnt been on it for a while,

So starting back up

once with Dianbol

Post cycle therapy,

Isnt it when you use it to restore lost test ?
bit vague, but thats the jist?

[D7M]

bro, you are too young and have not yet done enough research to be using steroids.

I suggest you head over to the diet forum, and post up your diet.

[CBGB]

Unless you are under 5 foot you don't have a large enough base to start with aas.

Post a pic with your face edited so we can check out your b/f

Dianabol is a good cycle kickstarter, but should be stacked with a long ester.

Your first true cycle should probably be test only, but you are far away from that.

Study up on pct, if you are unsure what it is you should not be putting any kind of aas in your body.

Most will argue that you are to young, lack training time/ experience. Put a couple more years in first bro.

btw to the board

[TypeDan]

Well, I tried dianabol, 25mg a day,
though i didnt use any pct,
my error unfortuantly.
I have done alot of research on it, though no matter what i read , its far more easier if i ask one of you guys, as you are older than myself.

I was thinking

test 400mg/pw
dianabol 25mg p/day
novladex 10 mg

Im trying to bulk

[CBGB]

Single compound cycle!
You still don't have an understanding of pct!
You lack training and experience
If you are sitting at 145lbs you should spend your time in the diet section
Still to young!
How tall are you?

[CBGB]

Take a bit of your time and read this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

[TypeDan]

5.9 ft

PCT restores your natural baalnce back, if you dont use it, you stand a lower chance of keeping your gains.
thats why I thought i should implement

Nolvadex or Clomid

[TypeDan]

ah, this is handy, thanks alot mate

[marcus300]

Please read http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

You dont need AAS, you need to eat,train and sleep for a few more years.

[CBGB]

^^^excellent read

[TypeDan]

Ive just read a massive thread about dieting

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

So I guess your both right - I dont/shouldnt use steriods yet,

I just wanted something to start on,

[CBGB]

Great, keep an open mind and stick around and the size will come. Good luck!

[fresh31]

looks like you need food bro, do you eat? glad to hear you know you don't need to cycle right now

[TypeDan]

"Below is the PCT protocol I use for most cycles. You could add 4 grams of Tribulus into PCT. There are plenty of studies that show the use of Tribulus will help increase LH levels. This is why it’s a good idea to use during the cycle as well.

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection"

Im getting really confused,

looking at that, does that mean
once every week for 10 weeks -enan at 500mg
everyday for 12 weeks - nolvadex at 10mg each day
everyday for 12 weeks - L-dex .25 each day

then PCT for 37 days
take
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

trying to get my head round this

[TypeDan]

Yea, I have a fast metabolism, find it hard to gain

[T-MOS]

Yea, I have a fast metabolism, find it hard to gain

no offense but this is the universal lame excuse everyone gives that doesn't know how to eat.

FOOD and DIET is 89.876% of making gains, then comes the training, then rest , THEN and only then come the steroids, they are just an AID, and only after all the other things are in line.

[TypeDan]

Ok, understood, firstly I should understand my dieting, and get eating the right stuff,

But thanks to everyone ,

I was expeding some really bitchy comments, and and unfriendly crowd

Thanks

[CBGB]

The trick is to make sure you leave your ego at the door. We are all here to help and be helped. Hit up the diet section, and get big!!!

[c-Z]

Diet for you my friend.

[eatrainrest]

here ill give you a head start
ALL LINKS, ID WATCH THEM IN ORDER MAKE SURE TO WATCH ALL THE VIDS IN THE 1ST!
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516 ** WATCH ALL DVD VIDEOS FIRST!
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384395 BMR CALCULATIONS

then go to thoe diet forum and post up your proposed diet after watching vids, bmr calcs and macros for all foods, meals, and daily caloric intake

[TypeDan]

maybe I can try just test ^^?
After i figure out a diet

[fresh31]

steroids are used when you reach your max natural potential at 5'9 145 lbs you have atleast another 30 lbs that you can put on naturally just by fixing your diet. I'm 5'6 205 lbs 11% bf I was 190 at 5'6 12 % bf before I did my first cycle. (which I'm finishing off this week)

[TypeDan]

Sweet, Now atleast I know what i'm aiming for

[fresh31]

at your height i'd aim for around 190-210 natural, and by the time you reach that goal you should be knowledgeable enough to know exactly what you should do on your first cycle. Just watch those videos and work a diet out and put it in the diet section with your goals and let them guys guide you towards all the size you want.

[fresh31]

oh and while you're off getting big, don't forget to work out your legs too, a lot of guys just focus on their upper bodies, which is quite funny.

[TypeDan]

^^, they had lil pin legs?

[fresh31]

well i have a friend who we call sponge bob, he's 6'1 i think about 200 lbs. NEVER EVER works out legs, so he kinda looks like sponge bob big up top with little lines for legs. then he wonders why when we play football he always gets out ran, or ran over (i like to run people over it's quite fun)

[TypeDan]

hahaha what an image, lol.

awesome