My father has started PGCL.....

[Hazard]

Hey guys,

I'm going to give PGCL a go but not just yet..... in the mean time..... my father has started taking it.

Here's his cycle and stats right now....

1-14 Test E - 500mg's/wk
1-10 Tren Ace - 100mg/eod

He's 47 y/o - 5'9 220lbs at around 11-12% bf. He's currently dieting to shred up the best he can.

He's now going into week 6 and he started his PGCL today. I wont be able to update you everytime he takes a shot but i will do the best i can on a daily basis.

Today 4:30pm: 50mcg's left delt. 10 minutes after injection...... BATHROOM TIME. Within the 1st hour+ he was in the bathroom about 6 times..... He's currently feeling a bit bloated and definately not hungry..... he said he couldn't eat if you paid him to.

thats all for now..... i'll update as i get mroe info from him.

~Haz~

[oneshot]

at 47 yo, thats one hardcore mofo! good luck to him and keep us posted

[hankdiesel]

what is PGCL?

[TTexas]

Wow.
Isnt that stuff made to put cats/dogs into heat?

BTW I know a guy who took it precontest and was already about 10% and lost 15lbs in a matter of days

went to ER after the show to get IV fluids

[Ashop]

at 47 yo, thats one hardcore mofo! good luck to him and keep us posted

YES,,,please keep us updated on his progress.

[Necrosaro]

Check this out http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=298908

[Hazard]

ok so it's day 2.....

Last night he took another 50mcg's - went to the bathroom about 20 minutes after injection but that was it. Not really any cramping..... He could barely eat last night.

Today: 50mcg's in AM - bathroom twice. about 15 minutes and 45 minutes after shot. Minor cramping but nothing too serious. He is running a fever and he also used to have "prostatitis" which makes it sting when you pee...... it has seemed to have come back. Now.... he's got to stay away from cabonation, hot foods, and acidic drinks like cranberry juice...... he says his diet hasn't included any of those and it's flaring up again. He's going to try and push through and see what happens. If his condition gets worse and not better than he knows it's from the PGCL.

Thats all for now.....

~Haz~

oh BTW: He is a very healthy 47 LOL..... his blood work was the best his doctor had ever seen. His TOTAL cholesterol was 104..... everything is in check. He's seeing a TRT doctor also and has regular bloodwork.

[Hazard]

ok after his 2nd 50mcg shot for the day he sat down and said he didn't feel too good LOL

He went to the bathroom once but said he's got a very very uneasy feeling in his stomach. It's not quite "cramping" tho...... He still has a fever also. He barely ate his dinner tonite but did get it all down.


He's supposed to do a 3rd one tonite but im not sure he will......

~Haz~

[Hazard]

He just took his 3rd shot of the day and weighed himself. This is the end of his 2nd day and he's down 2.1lbs..... Whether it's from poopin or fatloss..... idunno. He also said that taking a dump feels like battery acid is comming out of his *ss.....

~Haz~

[Hazard]

OK..... this is going to be a little graphic.....

Today was his 3rd day..... and it's safe to say his last. He's hating the way he feels..... he could have a cold on top of the pgcl symptoms so he mite give it another try in a few weeks.

I decided to take 50mcg's today pre-workout. My father wasn't getting "run to the bathroom" sh*ts...... but he did have to go. I figured i'd try it..... i knew what to look for and wanted to see what it felt like...... i guess to prove that it really was THAT bad...... (as im typing..... i'm carrying the laptop into the bathroom LOL)

THESE TESTIMONIALS ARE NOT A JOKE! My *SSHOLE IS BLEEDING! I took 50mcg's at 4:45pm. By 5:00pm i went once..... very small. By 5:20 - i went again and it wasn't as "solid" - By 5:45 i went into the bathroom and p*ssed out of my ass a good 6 times..... There can not be anything left up there i swear......

I initially didn't feel anything after injection..... so i went and loaded my other syringe with test. My test injection was AWEFUL! This isn't really related to the pgcl but it sucked really bad. The pin prick was fine.... don't really feel that - but i felt the oil going in...... i felt it from my upper thigh all the way down to my knee. It was really painful..... almost felt like i was injecting too much oil.... but it was nothing different from every other injection i do.

Back to the pgcl...... so just as i finished my test injection i got EXTREMILLY HOT..... there was maybe 7 minutes between my pgcl injection and my test injection. I felt light headed..... and the acids in my stomach were movin. I felt sooooo hungry but i knew not to eat. I thought the light headedness could be from injection anxiety fromt he test inj...... i was freakin out a little because i've never had that pain before. I was scared i was hitting a vein or something LOL.

I'm now 90 minutes post injection and the hunger pains have not subsided...... following all "hot flashes" i'd get the chills and goosebumps..... but those are gone now too. The veins in my wrists,hands, and palms are sticking out really nicely..... but i'm attributing this to how hard i was holding onto the toilet bowl.....

IN THE NAME OF EVERYTHING PINK AND SQUISHY....... DO NOT DO THIS PRE-WORKOUT OR BEFORE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE! You'll go poopy in your pants..... i'm not kidding HAHA!

thats all for now......
~Haz~

[spywizard]

ok.. since he and i are about the same age, and i've used it..

he is losing muscle... period..

they body needs food, and it will take what you don't give it.. cycle or not..

The product does work for eliminating nutrients from the digestive track.. thus putting your net cals at a deficit , however this can be accomplished through diet..

he'll learn this in 3 months when he comes off, and his new cal requirement makes him store more fat than he is programmed to do now.

[Hazard]

ok.. since he and i are about the same age, and i've used it..

he is losing muscle... period..

they body needs food, and it will take what you don't give it.. cycle or not..

The product does work for eliminating nutrients from the digestive track.. thus putting your net cals at a deficit , however this can be accomplished through diet..

he'll learn this in 3 months when he comes off, and his new cal requirement makes him store more fat than he is programmed to do now.

well..... wonderful..... thanks for the heads up spy! he's not going to continue with it..... he feels terrible. You've actually shed new light on this stuff for me..... i havn't seen that info yet. If thats the case..... i'm not feeling too crazy about it....

~Haz~

[Epic1]

vandyl sulfate made me poo like that. it sucks. Good luck to you 2!

[spywizard]

well..... wonderful..... thanks for the heads up spy! he's not going to continue with it..... he feels terrible. You've actually shed new light on this stuff for me..... i havn't seen that info yet. If thats the case..... i'm not feeling too crazy about it....

~Haz~

dont' get me wrong, the product will work, and it does ... but it's putting you into a state of starvation.. and the aas causes your body to not cannibalize itself... but the body needs energy, so it will take it from somewhere... the organs?? brain?? we just don't know and thats the problem..

by the way, when coming off, the constipation can be really bad..