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    best long estered Test without bloat?

    what would be the best

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    In order of least bloat...

    1. Sustanon
    (Whilst Sustanon is a blend of 4 diff esters, it's long acting and generally produces the least bloat according to most user feedback)

    2. Cypionate

    3. Enanthate

    ...Also, you can control the bloat with a good low sodium diet & some AIs/Serms. Obviously, bloat is dose dependent also.

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    you cant have your cake and eat it too, sust should be pinned eod, If you are worried about bloat just do prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishColumbian View Post
    you cant have your cake and eat it too, sust should be pinned eod, If you are worried about bloat just do prop.
    Sorry, but that old wives tale about having to pin Sust e/o/d because it has Prop in it is a total myth bro,- it's just not necessary, and yes, you still benefit from the Prop if you pin only once a week, although I'd still pin twice a week personally.

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    I'm sure Lats60 won't mind me posting this link...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344992

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmasterSpank View Post
    I'm sure Lats60 won't mind me posting this link...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344992
    Lats60 is a scammer, thats why he is banned,

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Lats60 is a scammer, thats why he is banned,
    News to me. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Lats60 is a scammer, thats why he is banned,
    if he was banned then why doesnt his profile say banned. also being a scammer has nothing to do with knowledge. he gave some good advice

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    They all bloat. Prop just has a fatser reaction time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmasterSpank View Post
    Sorry, but that old wives tale about having to pin Sust e/o/d because it has Prop in it is a total myth bro,- it's just not necessary, and yes, you still benefit from the Prop if you pin only once a week, although I'd still pin twice a week personally.
    well said.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmasterSpank View Post
    In order of least bloat...

    1. Sustanon
    (Whilst Sustanon is a blend of 4 diff esters, it's long acting and generally produces the least bloat according to most user feedback)

    2. Cypionate

    3. Enanthate

    ...Also, you can control the bloat with a good low sodium diet & some AIs/Serms. Obviously, bloat is dose dependent also.
    1st of all..... enenthate has a shorter half-life than cyp. I've used both..... friends have used both.... and my father has used both..... i don't generally bloat..... but cypionate would bloat you more than enanthate would. I can't comment on the sust..... i havn't used it.... i would have thought it would have been the worst of all of them tho. My father is on HRT w/ sust 250 and the doctor put him on a water pill to control bloating - mind you...... the doctor didn't give him a water pill w/ the enanthate he was taking.

    to the OP..... how much you bloat is dependent on your genetics, diet, and if you take anything to control bloating. (a-dex)

    ~Haz~

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmasterSpank View Post
    Sorry, but that old wives tale about having to pin Sust e/o/d because it has Prop in it is a total myth bro,- it's just not necessary, and yes, you still benefit from the Prop if you pin only once a week, although I'd still pin twice a week personally.
    Does it HAVE to be shot EOD..... NO...... Does test E have to be shot twice a week..... no..... hell.... why not shoot test E once every 2 weeks since it has a 14 day half life?

    The point to EOD injections with sust is to keep your blood levels mroe stable..... do you HAVE to doit..... no you dont and yes you will still see benefits from the test. But why wouldn't you want to keep your side effects to a minimum and your blood levels stable?

    If you don't want to inject more than twice a week..... USE TEST E or TEST CYP...... TEST IS TEST..... just because sustanon has 4 esthers doesn't make it the holy grail of bodybuilding......

    ~Haz~

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmasterSpank View Post
    Sorry, but that old wives tale about having to pin Sust e/o/d because it has Prop in it is a total myth bro,- it's just not necessary, and yes, you still benefit from the Prop if you pin only once a week, although I'd still pin twice a week personally.


    are you saying that prop can be shot twice a week and be ok? or are you saying sustanon twice a week.. you lost me on that post..

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    Quote Originally Posted by busaboy27 View Post
    are you saying that prop can be shot twice a week and be ok? or are you saying sustanon twice a week.. you lost me on that post..
    sust is a blend of 4 different test ester. One of the test ester is prop alot of people believe to take advantage of the prop ester it should be shot eod this would also help keep your blood levels stable*I am talking about sust*. Prop imho needs to be shot ed no questions. In my opinion sust should be shot eod for maximum stable bloods levels but you easily could do twice a week with sust also. It depends on the dose also when sust becouse the larger the dose the more prop ester your getting in each shot.

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    I agree u definately dont need to pin Sus eod.

    The only test ont here you would be missing out on really in Prop, The rest youll do fine with 2 times a week.

    I always do my sus twice a week and get great results.

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    i also used to shoot my sust twice a week and saw great results... but the point everyone tries to make is not that you won't see results if shot twice a week, it's that you should shoot EOD to keep blood levels stable and reduce sides.... which is why i no longer use sust (i used to get bad sides)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter View Post
    sust is a blend of 4 different test ester. One of the test ester is prop alot of people believe to take advantage of the prop ester it should be shot eod this would also help keep your blood levels stable*I am talking about sust*. Prop imho needs to be shot ed no questions. In my opinion sust should be shot eod for maximum stable bloods levels but you easily could do twice a week with sust also. It depends on the dose also when sust becouse the larger the dose the more prop ester your getting in each shot.
    ok thats what i thought but for some people the way it was wrote they were thinking something different.. cause prop is in sust and it sounded like talking about prop as a single for shooting it twice a week not prop as in sut.. u know what i mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by busaboy27 View Post
    ok thats what i thought but for some people the way it was wrote they were thinking something different.. cause prop is in sust and it sounded like talking about prop as a single for shooting it twice a week not prop as in sut.. u know what i mean...
    personally I would pin sust eod and if using a large enough dose ed. Stable blood levels are one of the keys to avoiding sides and if your going to pin it twice a week I just dont see why you dont use test e or c...

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    i meant to quote grandmasterspank.. about him saying that.. sorry didnt mean u mnfighter

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    Well i have used test c test e ans sustanon. You going to bloat a bit on all of them. It all depends on your dieting. Staying hydrated and your sodium intake. Remember you could shoot 1000 mgs a day and not ever accoplish it full potential if you diet isnt in check. So really check into your diet remember if you eat and train liek a bodybuilder you will look like one. You body is a product of what you put into it.

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    So if one were on a relatively low (TRT) dose of Sust, say 125 a per week would there still be a benefit to the twice a week shooting,or is the dose so small that in theory it would have a negligable effect on blood levels?

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