new to pct !!!!

[je39]

hello every one ,,, i'm new to steroids and i'm now taking 2ml Decca weakly for 5 weeks ,, i wonder what pct or cleans should i take after or during my cycle and I'd be very thankful if you help be, now i'm using some liver and kidney pills that my friends told me to take during cycle, cause i'm 20 years and i'd like to prevent myself from any future side effects :S

[Breggin]

2 ml of deca weekly sounds pretty weakly. Why don't you have test in your cycle? Also, what are your stats?

[AS-Talon]

Well, first off most people who reply to this will tell you that deca only is horrible... which it is... and especially for only 5 weeks. The reason being is that deca shuts down your natural test levels very hard and your not replacing it with any other test. And deca takes a long time to start working to its fullest potential (around 6 weeks I believe, feel free to correct me).

Anyway, what is the Deca you have dosed at per ml? Stats?

I would *probably* get some nolvadex and clomid to run for your pct, which should start 21 days after the last injection. Maybe something like..

Nolva 20mg ed week 1-4
Clomid 300mg Day 1
Clomid 100mg Day 2-14
Clomid 50mg Day 15-28

[oneshot]

terrible cycle. either get some test ASAP, or end the cycle and do a proper pct. next time research BEFORE you hop on cycle

[amateur88]

agreed with above, u should be running test with deca! its standard across the board to run test with any other steroid. and as for pct i would agree with tamoxifen (nolva) and clomid. if you arent going to add some test then i recommend coming off and starting pct immediately before you do yourself some damage.

[TITANIUM]

You have to run test.Period.Deca is great, when used the right way.Run Tamo with HCG for pct.You will screw up your cycle, and other things also, with out the test.Why are you running such low mgs of deca?Listen to the "experienced" bodybuilders that are giving you advice.There right.I am only on my second cycle,but been natural for 25 years.Your cycle is not planed out very well.Good luck.Titanium.
P.S.-I still have my own questions also, so live and learn.But, there right.Either stop your cycle now, and start pct.Or add some test asap.

[Lightsout2184]

man i really feel sorry for guys like this. i know a lot of guys at my gym that at some point did cycles like this and its because of the tools slash body building experts lol who tell them what to take.

[Big]

man i really feel sorry for guys like this. i know a lot of guys at my gym that at some point did cycles like this and its because of the tools slash body building experts lol who tell them what to take.

x2. all this guy has done is waste some cash and crash his natural test levels, I will be surprised if he isn't smaller when it's all said and done than he was before this "cycle". what a shame.

[c-Z]

x3 big. you think people would research before putting substances they know nothing about into their bodies. But its all good he's using liver and kidney pills.... he's safe using them... that's amazing for pct........ cough.

not to mention only 20... congrats..

[je39]

:| ,,,, you guys scared me so much ,, i thought that test is very bad and i should not take it no matter what happens ,, so this test thing is it also injectable or tablets or anything else ,, also I'd like to know the exact name of the test to stack it with Decca immediately ,,,,, thank god i just took 2ml of deeca till now ,, maybe it's not to late after all :O

[busaboy27]

no decca supresses your natural test level pretty fast and with a low dose... also your only 20 years old... maybe you should stop all and all and do a pct and give it a couple years before u cycle.. also u have to take deca for 12 weeks anyways.. so if i were you i would look into a pct

[je39]

sorry guys but i need to finish what i begun ,, also i'm planning on pct after my stupid cycle and that anonymous test thing,,, plz help me about test ??

[busaboy27]

do u have 10-12 weeks of deca?

[je39]

i told you i'm taking 2ml weakly and i got 8ml left ,, which will be 4 weaks left

[busaboy27]

forget the cycle.. it take 5 weeks for the deca to even start taking full effect as in gains.. start a pct. im still against the whole age thing of being to young.. but if your not gonna listen better get some test prop... which needs to be shot everyday.. maybe switch to enanthate after the test is in your system run test only for your 10 weeks. do a proper pct and not cycle for a couple years

[busaboy27]

dont be hard headed.. stop the cycle all together... and i have nothing more to say.. if your not gonna listen

[je39]

just tell me about test asap thing and i'll be very thankfull

[busaboy27]

i just did tell you.. test prop look it up!!!!!!

[je39]

does that means testosterone propionate ,,, how about the dosage especially in my cycle !!!!

[jbm]

does that means testosterone propionate ,,, how about the dosage especially in my cycle !!!!

Yup test propionate shot ed or eod...

[busaboy27]

yes test propionate.. seeing that its your first cycle... u should only be doing about 300a week .. test prop comes in 100mg per ml usually.. so 50mg a day for a week equals 350.. but u should swith to enanthate after u get the est in your system cause i sure wouldn't want to pin myself ed for 10 weeks.. or u can do it every other day.. but do it so it equals AROUND 300 cause thats about what the enathate will be when you do that

[busaboy27]

also what are your stats?
age 20
height
weight
body fat
u need some of the pct stuff on hand incase u start getting side effects when your on.. as in gyno......

[je39]

i dont know what stats is ,,,
age 20
height 167 cm
weight 132 pound
body fat : dont know but little
these pct can i buy them from pharmacies without prescription ??

[Breggin]

Bro, no offense, but you are clueless. You asked "what is this test asap thing?" bro they are saying get test As Soon As Possible. But truely you need to STOP and do PCT NOW!!!!!!!!!

[Lightsout2184]

Bro, no offense, but you are clueless. You asked "what is this test asap thing?" bro they are saying get test As Soon As Possible. But truely you need to STOP and do PCT NOW!!!!!!!!!

hey u forgot to point out his title for the thread "new to pct" like its a club or something. that was the first indicator before i opened the thread

[je39]

why should i stop i didnt take to much till now just 2 ml deca ,, i'll try to get my hand on test propionate as soon as posible

[je39]

sorry guys but i didn't explain my situation right ,, I'm not concerned of my test level during cycle ,, i just want it to return normal after my cycle ,,, so when Decca shut down the test production is that Temporary or Permanent ????

[Big]

For starters at 132lbs you should not be taking any steroids. Please list your daily diet in detail.
Additionally, you ask if your natural levels will return. If you cycle sensibly and responsibly, your natural levels usually return. You are not cycling sensibly and responsibly, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be.

[timguyperson]

People have reported deca dick as lasting for quite a while beyond their cycle. Your young so your natural test production is strong. That's in your favor. But you are still risking long term side effects if you don't follow these guys advice.

You really shouldn't have shot deca first and then asked questions later. Not a smart move. But I have had mates who have run deca only cycles for 5 weeks and been fine many times. So it's not the end of the world, so don't stress out too much. It is possible that you will come out with no side effects at all. However you are really playing with fire.

Follow the advice that has been given to you by the guys on this board. They answer questions on deca practically every day. Either get some testosterone into you fast and finish the cycle and then use proper pct. Or cut the cycle off now and run a pct.

[vpchill]

You Must Research these things Bro. You can do more damage than gains without knowing what your doing. jmo

[sigman roid]

hello every one ,,, i'm new to steroids and i'm now taking 2ml Decca weakly for 5 weeks ,, i wonder what pct or cleans should i take after or during my cycle and I'd be very thankful if you help be, now i'm using some liver and kidney pills that my friends told me to take during cycle, cause i'm 20 years and i'd like to prevent myself from any future side effects :S

if you wanted to prevent future side effects you would have come here before doing 2ml of deca a week and got proper advise now you have started what advice can we give? you are to young to use steriods but that dont matter now cause you all ready have and who ever told you to use deca needs to be strung up by his shrinking balls!!!!!

[chuckt12345]

just stop takin them man, there are 2 many reasons just from this thread that you should not be taken anything anabolic

[Chev]

Another kid that doesnt listen....

[busaboy27]

ya i got no were either so i finished my convo with him.. cause i almost bet he is still gonna do it anyways.. so at least helped him with the test cause he like ever 20 year old.. (my brother is 20) who does not listen

[Rugbyboys]

DECAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
research is the key to everything ...these boys know what there talking about lisen and you wont go wrong

[chuckt12345]

i pretty much did the same thing to on my first cycle but i wasnt 20,,

[Rugbyboys]

20 is a good age to have deca dick what you talking about

[Rugbyboys]

means you can grind with who ever you want with out worrying about those pesky boners

[je39]

you seem very serious cause most people especially my captain told me that decca is the least anabolic steroid side effect ,, but i think you are right i should end this cycle and wait for few years :S

[busaboy27]

39 post later....... u finally listen lol