2nd Cycle Advice

[Ricer]

Just finished my Test Cyp/Dbol cycle.

Not really any crazy gains, but I am already looking to do a bulker.

I plan on running Test and Deca.

I am thinking the following:

Test 1-12 Weeks 500mgs/Week
Deca 1-10 Weeks 500mgs/Week

I don't have my test in hand yet but I can get some T400, would it be alright to do t400 instead of test e?

I will have my deca at the end of this week.

And yes I will have proper PCT

Nolva
Clomid
Adex- Just in case.

Any advice would be great

[WARMachine]

Stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)



Adex in PCT is pointless unless running a proper dose.

Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Arimidex.

And when were you planning to run this cycle?

I hope you intend to give yourself proper time off?

[ace001]

Whats your diet like? I made good gains on my first cycle with just Test E

[Phate]

Just finished my Test Cyp/Dbol cycle.

Not really any crazy gains, but I am already looking to do a bulker.
Got Diet?
I plan on running Test and Deca.

I am thinking the following:

Test 1-12 Weeks 500mgs/Week
Deca 1-10 Weeks 500mgs/Week
why not run it a bit longer, say 14 weeks total?
I don't have my test in hand yet but I can get some T400, would it be alright to do t400 instead of test e?
t400 is fine, a bit painful depending on how it's made, but fine
I will have my deca at the end of this week.
need time to rest bro
And yes I will have proper PCT

Nolva
Clomid
Adex- Just in case.

Any advice would be great

bold^^^

Stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

need this OP

Adex in PCT is pointless unless running a proper dose.

Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Arimidex.
i thought it was the other way around?
And when were you planning to run this cycle?

I hope you intend to give yourself proper time off?

yep yep^^^

Whats your diet like? I made good gains on my first cycle with just Test E

my thoughts exactly

[WARMachine]

Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Arimidex.
i thought it was the other way around?And when were you planning to run this cycle?

Nope.

Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Adex.

Im positive.

[Phate]

Nope.

Tamox reduces the effectiveness of Adex.

Im positive.

that's why i asked, you're one of the better pct guys

[WARMachine]

^ no worries.

Any chance to skool a AR Hall of Famer...

[Phate]

^ no worries.

Any chance to skool a AR Hall of Famer...

bitch, lol

war>>><<<me
me>>>:<<<war

[WARMachine]

[Ricer]

Sorry for the delay guys.

I'm on my pct. I am just planning ahead. How long do you guys think I should wait for?

age: 22
height: 6'2
weight: 212
bf 13%
Been lifting for over 2 years steady
cycle experience: Prohormone in the past (Waste) Test Cyp/Dbol Cycle

Pct : Plan on using Clomid/Nolva

I am a bit of gyno prone.

Goals: Put on more size, and strength.
Want to be solid 225/230 in the future.

[WARMachine]

I'm on my pct. I am just planning ahead. How long do you guys think I should wait for?

Time on + PCT time = Proper time off.


Now for your next cycle, the good ol' classic

Test
Deca
Dbol/Drol

has always been a great bulker.

[Ricer]

I was not a fan of Dbol
Nipples were sensitive, started to get gyno symptoms.

[WARMachine]

^ W/E.

Anadrol then.

I wouldnt recommend Tren for a second cycle. Its a bit advanced.

[hankdiesel]

when did you come off this last cycle?

[Immortal Soldier]

^ W/E.

Anadrol then.

I wouldnt recommend Tren for a second cycle. Its a bit advanced.

Tren is not "more advanced", it just has more side effects in some people and the more cycle experience you have the better you can deal with those effects.

I took Tren in my second cycle and besides hair loss and back acne and wanting to bang anything that moves, I was fine. Oh I forgot sweating like a mofo

[WARMachine]

^ Exactly.

Which is why it not recommended for beginners. i.e. First and second time users.

[Ricer]

Ya, I don't plan on doing tren at all.......

I finished my cycle 2 1/2 weeks ago.

[Immortal Soldier]

^ Exactly.

Which is why it not recommended for beginners. i.e. First and second time users.

You say Tomato, I say Potato

[WARMachine]

^

[marcus300]

What gains do you have with cyp and dbol on your first cycle?

[Ricer]

Wasn't incredible.

I started at 202 before the cycle.
While on the last week of dbol I was weighing in 216
Ended the cycle at around 211-212

[alpmaster]

10lbs from a test/dbol cycle? You need major diet help dude.

[marcus300]

Wasn't incredible.

I started at 202 before the cycle.
While on the last week of dbol I was weighing in 216
Ended the cycle at around 211-212

I would either run the same but up the dose or you could swap the dbol for drol, I wouldnt run deca yet with those results, i would swap up your diet and change dosages or change the oral as ive stated above.

[Ricer]

Well I wasn't 100% on my test cyp. I know for a fact the dbol was real, but the test was bunk IMO.

[WARMachine]

^ Most likely.

Or severly underdosed.

[Immortal Soldier]

I would either run the same but up the dose or you could swap the dbol for drol, I wouldnt run deca yet with those results, i would swap up your diet and change dosages or change the oral as ive stated above.

I agree, you should have gained more than 10lbs on your first cycle especially with a dbol kickstart. Most people gain around 15-20lbs on their first cycle which is test only.

How was your diet?

[marcus300]

Well I wasn't 100% on my test cyp. I know for a fact the dbol was real, but the test was bunk IMO.

Well dont change a thing, get some real cyp try TESTEX and go again.