PCT help please?

[bigbeotch]

Ok I'm gonna look like a dumbass here, but did my 1st injection of Testosterone Enanthate 250 today, did 2cc (told that was a mistake and would be better to do 1cc 2x/week, switching to this next week). Doing a 10 week cycle. Havent set up my PCT yet, read up on it here and i will start it 14days after last injection. I have read both to do Nolva throughout your cycle and wait till the end, which is better? I was planning on 20mg of Nolva from what i read for around 4 weeks.

Would really appreciate help with my PCT. This is my 1st cycle, and first experience with steroids, so how the Nolva and any other recommended product is taken as well would be great.

I'm 6'5, 225, 35yrs BMI approx 15-18. Weight training 3yrs steady, 10yrs on/off.

[WARMachine]

BF%?

And 6'5 at 225? Red Flag.


Anyway, i dont know wtf youre talking about here.

I have read both to do Nolva throughout your cycle and wait till the end, which is better?

The only reason youd take Nolvadex on cycle is to combat ERSEs. Namely gyno.

PCT begins AFTER the cycle. Thus the reason it is called POST-CYCLE-THEREPY.

And you will need more than just Nolvadex during your PCT.

Read the following links.

"Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

Swifto's PCT and hCG advice
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

[bigbeotch]

I can't find the thread right now, but a person was posting that he studied the european style and said that they take Nolvadex throughout the cycle to keep the estrogen at a minimum so there is no huge build up at the end.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this, I just brought it up because I don't know. That's why I'm asking. I will hunt for the thread again and post it if I can.

[CHAP]

Nolva=40mg/day 30 days

Clomid=150mg/1 weeks 100mg/1 weeks 50mg/2 weeks

Hcg = Im not sure of this protocal but if I could go back I would do it.

I did not do my pct correctly not long enough or strong enough and without HCG and now at 28 Im on TRT for life. Do it right the first time.

Good luck. Its worth the extra money.

[WARMachine]

I can't find the thread right now, but a person was posting that he studied the european style and said that they take Nolvadex throughout the cycle to keep the estrogen at a minimum so there is no huge build up at the end.

The European style what? And running Nolvadex to control estrogen is retarded. As it doesnt reduce estrogen in your body. It mearly blocks the estrogen from binding to the receptors in the breast, now the circulating estrogen can still be elevated, it just wont have the abillity to bind to the receptors in the breast and cause breast growth


I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this, I just brought it up because I don't know. That's why I'm asking. I will hunt for the thread again and post it if I can.

Bolds.


BTW, Id LOVE to see that post youre reffering to, so i can tear it apart.

[bigbeotch]

It took me a while to find it but the post is in here, it's by Stacker3, about 1/2 way down the page.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

[bigbeotch]

Thanks Chap, I really appreciate the help. I've had a hard time finding numbers. And sorry I'm new at this, what is TRT?

[WARMachine]

It took me a while to find it but the post is in here, it's by Stacker3, about 1/2 way down the page.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

Yeah that guy is a fool. He claims that its best to run short cycles only so you can recover quicker and run more cycles. Well honestly, everyone is different and recover at different speeds. Thats why blood work is required after every cycle.

That thread is 4 years old, so naturally its rather outdated and full of stupid people rambling on about things they dont fully understand...

[bigbeotch]

Nolva=40mg/day 30 days

Clomid=150mg/1 weeks 100mg/1 weeks 50mg/2 weeks

Hcg = Im not sure of this protocal but if I could go back I would do it.

I did not do my pct correctly not long enough or strong enough and without HCG and now at 28 Im on TRT for life. Do it right the first time.

Good luck. Its worth the extra money.

Is this 150mg of Clomid ED or once a week?

[WARMachine]

ED.

But honestly, i wouldnt go above 100mgs ED. Anything over that dose seems to yield some nasty side effects...

[bigbeotch]

That's great, thanks for the advice. You wouldn't happen to know if i need HCG would you? And if so at what dosage?

[WARMachine]

Its not required.

You should be just fine without it... Though i will say bloodwork about 2 weeks after PCT is a good idea.

[bigbeotch]

Awesome, thanks so much, I owe ya one.