Old guy's Test E question...

[Latronis]

Hello all!

I know I'm new here, but I need to ask for a little experienced oversight. I think, from what I have read, that I am ok - but a second set of eyes never hurts. Vets, mods, and others, please feel free to chime in. Here we go...

Stats:
38 y/o
6'
210
15.6% bf (and falling)
Training exp - 10 yrs (one form or another), serious for past 2

This will be first full cycle in over 15 years (the other was a 12 wk cycle of Sten...turned out to be underdosed Mexican-made crap), so for practical intents and purposes it's my virgin cycle.. My bodyfat is a little high due to me not paying as much attention to cardio as I should be (that's changed as of last week). As soon as I can get my macros worked out, I will post my diet and let you guys rip it up. Anyway, here's my current plan -

Accomplishments to be made before cycle begins:

- 6-9 mos. more of training, learning, and working on diet,
- Find a doc to ensure bloodwork is ok, and to monitor during cycle,
- Drop down to between 13-14% bf

Cycle Info:

500mg/wk Test E (Androne 250, Tamin Pharm., Iran),
Not going to kickstart, as I want to learn the effects of the test by itself and I can wait for a several weeks for it to start kicking in. Nolva and L-dex on hand during cycle just in case of bad sides.

PCT Info:

will start 2 weeks after last pinning and consist of:

40/20/20/20/10 Nolva (last week just for good measure, can drop it if not necessary)
100/50/50/50/25 Clomi (again, last week is optional and just for good measure)
wk 1-4 - .25mg L-Dex ed
no access to HCG



I also have access to 11mL of Sust (Sust 250, Organon Pharm., Karachi), and plan to try out a 6-wk cycle (just to test my reaction to it) that will look like this:
wk 1 - 250mg
wk 2-6 - 500mg

This will be done 12 weeks after the Test cycle (depending on the bloodwork of course). Same PCT as above, but only 4 week duration

Please let me know if my head is screwed on straight, or if this needs to be tweaked. Not really concerned about the cycle's timeline, as all gear has an expy date of 2012 or later.

Thanks in advance for your input, guys (and gals)!

L.

[LexusIS09]

Nice to see someone who has researched for a change.

That cycle will be really fun... I know you said you didn't want to kickstart, but I would probably use the Sust as a kick-start (because 6 weeks worth of sust isn't enough in my opinion... there just isn't even prop to really get great gains in that short time frame)

[Latronis]

Hi Lexus, and thanks for the reply!

I do at least try to read up on things a little bit, that way I can get to the meat of my question without wasting anyone's time...makes for a much more intelligent conversation, IMHO.

About frontloading with sust - I was under the assumption that sust takes at least 4-5 weeks in and of itself to show effects (being a long ester)...wouldnt it be a waste, since the Test E - from my understanding - takes just as long (also being a long ester) to show any presence? Meaning, even if I did kickstart with the Sust at 750mg/wk, I'd still have to wait for 4-5 weeks for it to fully kick in, right? Is there enough of a difference between the two that I'd be able to tell which ones are giving me which effects?

I also am a little concerned with running an 18 week initial cycle (its that damn "safe than sorry" response again...), and am uncertain how to extend my PCT to compensate for it.

Any advice?

L.

[Latronis]

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Anyone else? Anybody?

[TITANIUM]

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