Advice for first time Equipoise user

[ccondo]

I am a 35 year old male and was hoping for some advice. I am 6' 1" tall and am 222 lbs. I am currently about 20 lbs over weight. I have some natural size and have what I would call dormant muscle bulk on my frame.

I just obtained some EQ with a brand name of Mexi-Vet. I have worked out a lot in my life time in the past, but just started back about 2 months ago. I am finally starting to be able to lift some heavy weight with more intensity. I just started really trying to get after my diet a couple of weeks ago. I am not dropping weight right now, just converting some fat back to muscle.

My goal is to put on some reasonable mass, drop some fat, and get a little bit of a cut. I dont need to have a six pack or anything, but I do want a flat stomach.

I was wondering a few things.

Should I use EQ by itself or not?
I have heard some people complain about this brand - should I worry about Mexi-Vet?
I have read that EQ increases your appetite. Should I wait until I have cut some of this fat before using it?
Do I need to talk anything coming off it it like noveldex etc?

Any help is much appreciated

[busaboy27]

u need to take test with almost every cycle...

is this going to be your first cycle?

any cycle needs a proper pct..

6'1'' 220 whats your body fat%

[Reed]

Test should be an addition to this cycle and be the base of ALL cycles

but being over weight you should wait as you already said till the fat comes off.

And while you do this you can research more into PCT

Honestly your goals sound obtainable with out drugs just a little more time and hard work w/ a better diet is all.

[ccondo]

This would be my first cycle. I am unsure of my bodyfat. I purchased one of those Accumeasure calipers but when I use it the results cant be right. It says 5.4% fat. This despite me wearing a size 34-36 pants. I also have one of those iron man scales and it says I have 30% body fat. If I had to guess I would say it was 25%.

I just started taking Xenodrene and Pro Performance Amino Acids and really cracking down on my diet. I found a really good program to track my diet. It is called www.weightbydate.com BTW

[spooledup]

God I'm sick of the test parrots.

Yes, you can use EQ alone.

Your BF is too high. You should get it down some before using AAS.

[chuckt12345]

God I'm sick of the test parrots.

Yes, you can use EQ alone.

Your BF is too high. You should get it down some before using AAS.

God im sick of these BF parrots
Can you do eq alone? of course you can,, its just not advised

[spooledup]

God im sick of these BF parrots
Can you do eq alone? of course you can,, its just not advised

Therein lies the problem.

99% of the people who say don't do an EQ cycle, have never done an EQ only cycle themself.

So don't give advice unless you have experienced an EQ only cycle yourself.

I like EQ only, it satisfies my goals 100%, and recovery is much easier than when using test.

[chuckt12345]

Therein lies the problem.

99% of the people who say don't do an EQ cycle, have never done an EQ only cycle themself.

So don't give advice unless you have experienced an EQ only cycle yourself.

I like EQ only, it satisfies my goals 100%, and recovery is much easier than when using test.

Hey ive never shot a gram of heroin either but its prob not a smart idea. Just because you like EQ alone doesnt mean its a good idea.
And im assuming you had the same BF as this guy and cycled? Cause you gave him advice about high BF% and it seems you would of have to have done it to advise someone on it correct? At least thats what you stated above.

[AllPumpedUp]

yes as these guys said, should run a small course of test. you dont have to but it always helps! Anything that has the potential of shutting you down is goo dto throw some test in. it has several upsides!

[ccondo]

What do you mean it can shut you down?
Why do you suggest adding tes? Just for the added benefits, because of risk, etc?

[ccondo]

I figured out how to use the caliper and it said I have 21.6% fat BTW

[sigman roid]

What do you mean it can shut you down?
Why do you suggest adding tes? Just for the added benefits, because of risk, etc?

you natural test production will shut down/surpress once you start using so it is always advised to replace you natural test with some synthetic test to keep your body running properly and to give you maximum gains

[Seattle Junk]

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[DEE151]

Therein lies the problem.

99% of the people who say don't do an EQ cycle, have never done an EQ only cycle themself.

So don't give advice unless you have experienced an EQ only cycle yourself.

I like EQ only, it satisfies my goals 100%, and recovery is much easier than when using test.

x2
I'm on test e and eq right now and i like it, this is my 2nd cycle of eq i get great pumps and i fill like i can keep lifting and not get tiered and that part is from the eq...

[Seattle Junk]

I will say EQ is my favorite injectable (besides test as my base of course) and turanabol is my favorite oral. Funny thing is that both of these drugs are very similiar to dbol but they act nothing like it besides the lbm gains.

[ccondo]

Dee151 - I took my second injection of EQ today. I know where to get tes. How should I combine it in at this point? Dont you want to pyramid tes up and then down? Also do I need to take something like novaldex on the way down?

[ccondo]

This EQ is 300mg BTW
Due to what it would do to my natural tes production - if I only do a 5 week cycle do you guys still think I would need additional tes - I am doing 600mg a week for 5 weeks.

[seriousmass]

you won't make any gains @ 600mg for 5 weeks. It'll just be beginning to build up in your blood stream when you conclude your cycle..

therefore the idea = stupid.

Run it 600 - 750mg for at least 14 weeks IMO. pc.

(also, YES, you can run EQ without test.)

[DEE151]

you won't make any gains @ 600mg for 5 weeks. It'll just be beginning to build up in your blood stream when you conclude your cycle..

therefore the idea = stupid.

Run it 600 - 750mg for at least 14 weeks IMO. pc.

(also, YES, you can run EQ without test.)

how can you run eq with out test? and why? explane this to me

[amcon]

God I'm sick of the test parrots.

Yes, you can use EQ alone.

Your BF is too high. You should get it down some before using AAS.

bad advise about eq, and bf should be less than 14 % - not your idea of 14 % but ours.

and you should be maxiumizing your natural abilities before you juice... meaning you dont have any more relaxed/dormant muscle

if you have more questions ask them i not flaming you just giving good sound advise

[amcon]

God im sick of these BF parrots
Can you do eq alone? of course you can,, its just not advised

well put, good advise!

not that you cant just not optimum

expensive compaired to test and less growth

i will also ad the eq will make you (typically) very hungry, that means if you have a crappy diet you will eat more crappy food - thus, you will gain more crappy weight..

[amcon]

Hey ive never shot a gram of heroin either but its prob not a smart idea. Just because you like EQ alone doesnt mean its a good idea.
And im assuming you had the same BF as this guy and cycled? Cause you gave him advice about high BF% and it seems you would of have to have done it to advise someone on it correct? At least thats what you stated above.

lol that was well put

[amcon]

how can you run eq with out test? and why? explane this to me

he said you can run it with out test, not it is smart to run with out test....

what are you goals that will help this discussion

[DEE151]

he said you can run it with out test, not it is smart to run with out test....

what are you goals that will help this discussion

fvck that throw some test e in with the eq

[ccondo]

I picked up some Test E today - 350ML

I just took my second shot of 300 EQ today. How would you recommend I add this Test E at this time?

[DEE151]

I picked up some Test E today - 350ML

I just took my second shot of 300 EQ today. How would you recommend I add this Test E at this time?

do you mean 350mg? 350ml is a lot of gear

[DEE151]

you shure pick up that test e pretty dam quick

[ccondo]

Yeah 350mg I knew my buddy has test - just so happened it was test E - I only have one bottle of this and the EQ - will I need to have more - IE how many weeks of each should I do? I was hoping for 5 weeks of E and just this one bottle of test E.

[Ashop]

I am a 35 year old male and was hoping for some advice. I am 6' 1" tall and am 222 lbs. I am currently about 20 lbs over weight. I have some natural size and have what I would call dormant muscle bulk on my frame.

I just obtained some EQ with a brand name of Mexi-Vet. I have worked out a lot in my life time in the past, but just started back about 2 months ago. I am finally starting to be able to lift some heavy weight with more intensity. I just started really trying to get after my diet a couple of weeks ago. I am not dropping weight right now, just converting some fat back to muscle.

My goal is to put on some reasonable mass, drop some fat, and get a little bit of a cut. I dont need to have a six pack or anything, but I do want a flat stomach.

I was wondering a few things.

Should I use EQ by itself or not?
I have heard some people complain about this brand - should I worry about Mexi-Vet?
I have read that EQ increases your appetite. Should I wait until I have cut some of this fat before using it?
Do I need to talk anything coming off it it like noveldex etc?

Any help is much appreciated

I wouldnt use EQ alone. Always stack with some additional testosterone.
EQ drastically increase my appetite,,,I eat everything in sight.

[Seattle Junk]

I wouldnt use EQ alone. Always stack with some additional testosterone.
EQ drastically increase my appetite,,,I eat everything in sight.

Yaw, tell me about it. Sometimes I get so hungry I feel like a lion or tiger looking to pounce on something and eat it raw.

[ccondo]

Friday I was online about to try to find a source for some Noveldex and some Clomid. I have really been on the fence about doing all of this and it seemed like this was snowballing out of control. I get EQ, now I need Test, I have Test now I need Noveldex and Clomid. I wanted to do 5 weeks now I need 10-12.

I was about to place an online order and there was a good size storm and I said to myself God if you don't want me to do this have the power go out. I lost power less than 2 minutes later for the next 19 hours. I told myself it was a co-incidence and shrugged it off. The next day I took my first shot of Test. Later that day my left eye became extremely bloodshot (still is 2 days later). Sunday I went to Church - for about the 5th time this year and there was a sermon on encounters with God. That got my attention. I am not a religious fanatic but I feel that this was one time in my life God was definitely trying to tell me something.

I destroyed the steroids and will continue working out and tracking my calories, protein, fat, and carbs, as well a taking xenadrine, aminos, and Isopure. Like Reed initially said my goals are obtainable without steroids. I am in no way passing judgment on those who decide to take it. I just thought I would share my experience.

[Seattle Junk]

Friday I was online about to try to find a source for some Noveldex and some Clomid. I have really been on the fence about doing all of this and it seemed like this was snowballing out of control. I get EQ, now I need Test, I have Test now I need Noveldex and Clomid. I wanted to do 5 weeks now I need 10-12.

I was about to place an online order and there was a good size storm and I said to myself God if you don't want me to do this have the power go out. I lost power less than 2 minutes later for the next 19 hours. I told myself it was a co-incidence and shrugged it off. The next day I took my first shot of Test. Later that day my left eye became extremely bloodshot (still is 2 days later). Sunday I went to Church - for about the 5th time this year and there was a sermon on encounters with God. That got my attention. I am not a religious fanatic but I feel that this was one time in my life God was definitely trying to tell me something.

I destroyed the steroids and will continue working out and tracking my calories, protein, fat, and carbs, as well a taking xenadrine, aminos, and Isopure. Like Reed initially said my goals are obtainable without steroids. I am in no way passing judgment on those who decide to take it. I just thought I would share my experience.

Yes, the snowball rolls down hill too.

[MR10X]

By the end of the third week you should see a difference in your body,especially the upper body. A liittle test wont hurt but you will get bad side effects from that and might need some nolvadex witch will help with the estrogen conversion and it will also help to get your own test production back going. i have done EQ alone before and it worked good and not any bad side effects. My body likes to convert test to estrogen so i cant use a big dose,500mg a week at the most.

[marcus300]

EQ is worthless for muscle building IMHO, there are far better compounds out there what will build muscle, if your one of the few who respond to it your lucky or gifted lol.

[T-MOS]

you won't make any gains @ 600mg for 5 weeks. It'll just be beginning to build up in your blood stream when you conclude your cycle..

therefore the idea = stupid.

Run it 600 - 750mg for at least 14 weeks IMO. pc.

(also, YES, you can run EQ without test.)

It states right in the drug profile :

Eq will cause a suppression of your hormones, such as endogenous testosterone, so I would also recommend using injectable testosterone in any cycle containing it. Failure to do so could result in possible sexual dysfunction and other sides.


SO why would you advise running it alone????? Please educate us and the writer of all the drug profiles.......