newbie; t-bol advice

[steiner1]

just got some t-bol tabs 20mg each tab, was wondering if its ok to take on its own , it came in a 60 tab bottle ,i picked up 2 bottles, need help to structure cycle . whats the best time to take it, how many tabs ed, how many weeks should i run? thanks in advance! im 170lbs ,35y.o

[Reed]

forgot some important stats

height
bf (est)
training experience
PCT knowledge

[steiner1]

forgot some important stats

height
bf (est)
training experience
PCT knowledge

5'10 , 15% b.f , many years training , coming off back injury, dont like needles, opted for oral, just looking to put a little size on , power is coming back slowly.

[Reed]

Well if just coming off back injury I wouldn't recommend jumping right on T-bol due to jump in strength gains that may happen. Why not get back to where you were first then look into cycling to improve from there. It would be for your own good and benefit. I have had injuries myself and always wait till I am back together at full strength and been doing it at full strength for a bit too. I just don't like to waste things.

Plus at your stats of 5'10'' 15% 170lbs I would say that you could focus in on a better diet and training program before hopping on any anabolic that may cause you more harm than good if all your looking for is a "little size". Drugs do not do the work for you. And your goals are obtainable with out drugs.

Tbol profile: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

Everyone here would not ever recommend oral only cycles as most of the time the gains are lost so fast once off and come PCT time. Test should be the base of all cycles.

Do you know what PCT is?

and this is your starter pack in order to be successful: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=368656

[steiner1]

thanks for the reply reed, and yes i know what p.c.t is im not completely green.lol, my diet is in check . i agree with you ,im not going to start it until my strength is back to normal, or your right it would be a waste. im almost there . its a little difficult to get stuff up here in canada at the moment, hopefully things will turn around. i have access to test ,but only in vial form . ive done alot of reading and know an oral only cycle is not recommended, what do you suggest for pct? is there anything else other than clomid ? seeing that t-bol isnt as harsh as the others, or so ive read. thanks again for replying, appreciate it.

[Reed]

Just your basic nolva/clomid PCT would do. Not much of a fan of AIs unless they are necessary.

Understand your PCT compounds: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=198848


See if you can figure out the dosage before you ask again by doing a bit of research in the PCT forum

Since you are holding out on the cycle you have plenty of time

[steiner1]

Just your basic nolva/clomid PCT would do. Not much of a fan of AIs unless they are necessary.

Understand your PCT compounds: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=198848


See if you can figure out the dosage before you ask again by doing a bit of research in the PCT forum

Since you are holding out on the cycle you have plenty of time

thanks man, i figured one fo those two you mentioned. i hope things open up , up here ! like i said , its tough right now, all my buds are getting pretty frustrated! what do you think about a sup for p.c.t ?