tren or deca

[dan_e666]

alright guys. got a few cycles under my belt, but for my next one, would people recommend deca or tren? (along with test and dbol for a bulking cycle). are the sides of tren worth it, or should i just sick with deca? any advice would be great, cheers boys

[Matt]

I would go with tren for sure, but thats just me...

[inky-e]

I'd go with deca first...if that goes well then your next one can be tren...I LOVE TREN...but its harsh as hell....

[Knockout_Power]

Im in the same boat as you man, I really wanted to go into a Tren cycle to see how incredible it actually is, but enough people told me to do a Deca cycle (with test of course) before getting into Tren. Im over a month behind starting, but I will be runnning Test/Deca as my first multi compound cycle

[Immortal Soldier]

I am doing Deca for my upcoming cycle, did Tren on my last one.

Meh Tren is over-rated in terms of harsh sides. I was fine besides the sweating/dreams/back acne/hairloss I was g2g.

[RANA]

No sides for me on Tren and I love it!!!!

[Immortal Soldier]

No sides for me on Tren and I love it!!!!

I am going to try methyltren the most powerful of all anabolic orals to hit the bodbuilding world...IM SO EXCITED!!!! I heard the shit eats tren ace for breakfast and actually is a different compound just because of the methylated process it goes through.

Fingers crossed

[RANA]

I am going to try methyltren the most powerful of all anabolic orals to hit the bodbuilding world...IM SO EXCITED!!!! I heard the shit eats tren ace for breakfast and actually is a different compound just because of the methylated process it goes through.

Fingers crossed

Keep me posted on it, plus are you going to keep a log?

[Knockout_Power]

I am going to try methyltren the most powerful of all anabolic orals to hit the bodbuilding world...IM SO EXCITED!!!! I heard the shit eats tren ace for breakfast and actually is a different compound just because of the methylated process it goes through.

Fingers crossed

sounds awesome... something down the road maybe. I'll try the Ace to see how its works for me.

[Matt]

I am going to try methyltren the most powerful of all anabolic orals to hit the bodbuilding world...IM SO EXCITED!!!! I heard the shit eats tren ace for breakfast and actually is a different compound just because of the methylated process it goes through.

Fingers crossed

You need to start a log when you start this lol...

[Immortal Soldier]

Keep me posted on it, plus are you going to keep a log?

You need to start a log when you start this lol...

Idk if I can make a log, I will def. keep you guys posted on it and make a thread about it, I and a couple other members on this board are going to be running it.

The only I can't promise a log is because I start the cycle in mid Augest and I am going to back upstate at my college and this semster I got a shit load of classes and Idk if I will be able to be on here alot.

Anyway this is what my cycle is looking like:

1-4 Methyltren @ 500mcg/day
1-16 Test-e @ 700mg/week
1-14 Deca @500mg/week


Alot of people say that 2-3 weeks is what most people can handle, but I will try 4 weeks and see how it goes. The recommended dosage is 500mcg-750mcg, anything above 1mg has reports of jaundice and foul urine.

[Knockout_Power]

geez 2-3 weeks, sounds aggressive. What results does one hope to see with a stack like that? Is this for mass?

[Immortal Soldier]

geez 2-3 weeks, sounds aggressive. What results does one hope to see with a stack like that? Is this for mass?

Apparently its great for pre-cutting phase, but from what I read if you stack it with testosterone it would make you gain mass, I assume not dbol-like mass, but lean mass.

But it is very powerful and holds the highest AR binding rating.

I found this quote online by Professor Demetrios Kouretas

"“After three or four weeks of taking it, you get severe liver problems, and if you don’t stop, it could lead to death in a few months,” Kouretas."

Take that with a grain of salt because it is from an article talking about how Greek Olympic weightlifters were caught taking it.

Obiviously this isn't ment to be taken longer than 4 weeks and we might need to make a "How to use" thread on here to prevent any member from blindly using this drug. You can really **** yourself up on this.

This is what Big Cat wrote about it:

"Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well.
Of course the best advice is to refrain from using such a compound, although for 99% of the population that is not a problem, and I would assume that the 1% that does have access would know better."

[RANA]

Idk if I can make a log, I will def. keep you guys posted on it and make a thread about it, I and a couple other members on this board are going to be running it.

The only I can't promise a log is because I start the cycle in mid Augest and I am going to back upstate at my college and this semster I got a shit load of classes and Idk if I will be able to be on here alot.

Anyway this is what my cycle is looking like:

1-4 Methyltren @ 500mcg/day
1-16 Test-e @ 700mg/week
1-14 Deca @500mg/week


Alot of people say that 2-3 weeks is what most people can handle, but I will try 4 weeks and see how it goes. The recommended dosage is 500mcg-750mcg, anything above 1mg has reports of jaundice and foul urine.

Crazy, I will most likey stay away from it, I like my liver. I wish you luck with it.

[Knockout_Power]

yah man, stay safe... good luck

[Immortal Soldier]

I feel as long as the dosages are done properly that the hepatoxicity is overblown.

Not many people have used this drug across the steorid forums. And people use to say Anadrol was way to toxic on the liver and we saw how that came out.

I think the use of LiverLonger and Live52 afterwards should be enough, a bodybuilder went up to 2grams of this stuff and had brown piss and jaundice but liver values went to normal after cessation of use.

[RANA]

I feel as long as the dosages are done properly that the hepatoxicity is overblown.

Not many people have used this drug across the steorid forums. And people use to say Anadrol was way to toxic on the liver and we saw how that came out.

I think the use of LiverLonger and Live52 afterwards should be enough, a bodybuilder went up to 2grams of this stuff and had brown piss and jaundice but liver values went to normal after cessation of use.

Is this considered a short or long ester?

[Immortal Soldier]

Is this considered a short or long ester?

It has about the same half-life as Superdrol (ie. 6 hours). So doses would need to be split up, once in the morning and once towards afternoon-evening. So it would be considered short ester.

I will probably follow Superdrol proctol and do 3 weeks and if I feel fine, I will do the 4th week. Strength should be crazy with this compound, because I gained like 60lbs on my bench from Tren ace and I ended up keeping 50lbs of it or so. Hopefully this will allow me to bench over 300 a couple times right now I get 265 3-4 times, my bench is my weakest area

[RANA]

It has about the same half-life as Superdrol (ie. 6 hours). So doses would need to be split up, once in the morning and once towards afternoon-evening. So it would be considered short ester.

I will probably follow Superdrol proctol and do 3 weeks and if I feel fine, I will do the 4th week. Strength should be crazy with this compound, because I gained like 60lbs on my bench from Tren ace and I ended up keeping 50lbs of it or so. Hopefully this will allow me to bench over 300 a couple times right now I get 265 3-4 times, my bench is my weakest area

My questions is why would you run it on week 4 or 5 after your test kicks in? I am just curious because I can honestly say that what I have read on this has been limited.

[Reed]

Also like superdrol it'll wreck your HDL/LDL levels as well.


However, interested in this at a much later date, so maybe keep a log or something?

[chuckt12345]

isnt methyltren a PH?

[Immortal Soldier]

My questions is why would you run it on week 4 or 5 after your test kicks in? I am just curious because I can honestly say that what I have read on this has been limited.

I am cruising right now on test-e so when I start my cycle, test-e will already be in my system.

Yeah my knowledge on this is also limited, just because there isn't enough information on it.

Also like superdrol it'll wreck your HDL/LDL levels as well.

However, interested in this at a much later date, so maybe keep a log or something?

Well I know for a fact me and Hazard are going to be running it, he might do a log, I mean I will def. give you guys updates. I won't be able to give you day by day what I am eating/what my lift increases were because I will be too busy.

isnt methyltren a PH?

No, methyltren is methyltrenbolone, ie. methylated tren so its an oral. Information that I found said it is up 10 times more powerful than tren ace, yet you have take this all with a grain of salt because there are people claiming its 1000x more powerful than testosterone which is ludacris.

Supplement companies use that marketing tatic to make PH's with names like methyltren or trenadrol.

[Reed]

Well I know for a fact me and Hazard are going to be running it, he might do a log, I mean I will def. give you guys updates. I won't be able to give you day by day what I am eating/what my lift increases were because I will be too busy.

None of you giving me my day to day massages either?? such crap

[RANA]

I am cruising right now on test-e so when I start my cycle, test-e will already be in my system.

Yeah my knowledge on this is also limited, just because there isn't enough information on it.

Ok, cool. I wasn't sure because the way you showed your cycle:

Anyway this is what my cycle is looking like:

1-4 Methyltren @ 500mcg/day
1-16 Test-e @ 700mg/week
1-14 Deca @500mg/week

Like I said good luck with it! Let me know how yellow you get...lol

[Immortal Soldier]

Ok, cool. I wasn't sure because the way you showed your cycle:



Like I said good luck with it! Let me know how yellow you get...lol

Alright well I am going to make a list of Steroid.com members willing to donate me their liver if anything goes wrong:

The Donation List:

• Rana
• Reed

Alright who else?

[DKU]

They work well together.