Criitque cycle plse!!

[Navy-boi-kai]

Heya guys!! I have good gear on hand rite now and am keep stock piling. I have mdrol as well. Anyways This is just some ideas not anything set in stone!!

Im 20 yrs old

5'11"

202 as of today

12 percent bf

this would be my third cycle

looking to bulk up and lean out just a little more.

Weeks 1-12 test e 400 mgs a weeks
weeks 1-10 deca 400 mgs a weeks

the next two weeks following my test e shot i will use 50 mgs of prop ed

then start clomid 14 days after last shot.

Its just a rough draft of something i thought of. Im still deciding on a workout to go with my gear something more intense than the present.

Im got my dieting down pat now.

Plse crique tell me what you think any and all advice welcome!!

[T-MOS]

you know you are a few years too young right??

you know that PCT starts 3 days after last Prop shot right? so you need to time it right if your gonna use it with Test E

you know you need MORE than just clomid for PCT right?

is this your FIRST premature cycle??

[Navy-boi-kai]

whats ya mean premature t-mos? ok so it 3 days after. I have read that you could start pct 1 day after prop shot but 3 sounds good.

[T-MOS]

premature meaning YOU ARE STILL TOO YOUNG.......

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

[Navy-boi-kai]

the thread is great i like it. its my 3rd cycle but i would say that this is my first well planned cycle. u realy think im way to young why is that so

[_CrossroadS_]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=389983

I won't critique your cycle, but I will critique your character...You bashed this kid because you thought he was too young...what good is your advice if you can't follow it yourself?

[Navy-boi-kai]

We all arent perfect.I only said because look he is 18 probably just not even that. And only 135 thats not rite to do gear. Im only asking is there medical evidence to support why i am to young? or is it something that has never been truely confirmed?

[doctorclaus]

i did my first cycle at 19, if your growth plates are closed do it, also test levels are suppossed to be at their peak from 18-25 thtas why he thinks u r too young. a cycle that you are doing brings your test levels way high thus you are gettin great gains. do the cycle just make sure you pct rite.

[Navy-boi-kai]

ok i appreicate it. I mean is the cycle good of should i leave out the prop?

[doctorclaus]

steroids were not made for bodybuilding so we could all be wrong from all aspects, they sure do help your ass build muscle and thats why thy are used for body building.

[T-MOS]

ok well look bro Im 20 200 lbs 12 percent body fat. I personally think you could gain more weight naturally. My first cycle was deca only let me tell you it madem e have all kinds of problems. If you insist on cycling

weeks 1-12 test e or c 500 mgs a week

Winny weeks 8-12 at 50 mgs Every other day.

No exceptions to that cycle. Anything else at your age is just pointless and stupid and you will regret it. Also better have a planned PCT. Post cycle therapy. If not you going to lose it all. But you best friend rite now is weight and SHI* loads of good healthy food.

hmmm interesting.

see the sad thing here is YOU are 5'11" and ONLY 200 lbs and this is AFTER 3 cycles. YOU should have been able to get to and maintain 210-220 NATURALLY before ever using steroids

So you tell this kid he needs shit loads of good healthy food, but you yourself don't know how to eat to grow NATURALLY, and i am guessing that is why you are only 200lbs now. I too am 5'11" guess how much I weigh after about 6-8 cycles DONE CORRECTLY and with PROPER DIET?........ 275 !!! now cutting to 260

and I will KEEP that weight until I start my next cycle because I followed YOUR ADVICE and I know how to eat !!!

NICE CATCH CROSSROADS

[AllPumpedUp]

just be careful,you think all the steroids are giving you great gains but 5-10 years from now when you are trying to be natural, you will suffer trying to get and maintain gains

[Navy-boi-kai]

i have not cycled since last year in fact almost year now and i have maintained this weight since then and even cut some bf.

[T-MOS]

i have not cycled since last year in fact almost year now and i have maintained this weight since then and even cut some bf.

ok, well, good luck with this cycle, you have to EAT to grow

[HIITB$]

I dont want to get in this debate but id just like to point out that Prop is typically used to kick off a cycle not end it. I mean you could kick it off and end it with Prop but if you;re only doing one or the other id personally go for the Prop kickstart.

[Navy-boi-kai]

well im just asking tmos? I trust you man. your advice is golden and i will follow it. I know and im always working on diet no diet is perfect and anything can always be better. This why i keep coming back so i can better myself!! any more advice

[Navy-boi-kai]

its no prob man. are these dosages sufficent you feel at my age?

[T-MOS]

its no prob man. are these dosages sufficent you feel at my age?

dosages are fine.

I dont want to get in this debate but id just like to point out that Prop is typically used to kick off a cycle not end it. I mean you could kick it off and end it with Prop but if you;re only doing one or the other id personally go for the Prop kickstart.

actually it is VERY common to use prop at the end while you wait for PCT time, that way you still have hormones running right up to PCT time. so after you take your last Test E shot, you start to take prop right up until 3 days before PCT

[doctorclaus]

test e should be at 500mg bring deca down to 350

[HIITB$]

actually it is VERY common to use prop at the end while you wait for PCT time, that way you still have hormones running right up to PCT time. so after you take your last Test E shot, you start to take prop right up until 3 days before PCT

Yes but ive never heard of someone doing only at the end but not at the beginning? Thats normal though yeah? Maybe im just impatient lol Im doing Prop leading into TestE at the moment but have plenty of Prop left over. So last couple weeks be wise to throw in 50mg ED?

[doctorclaus]

Different ppl different genes

[T-MOS]

test e should be at 500mg bring deca down to 350

WHY???

it is a myth that Deca has to be lower then Test !!!!

[Navy-boi-kai]

I havr amplule amount of gear but i figure with 2 compounds you dont have to do a high dosage in order to get gains.

[Chopperbox]

wow at 20 and doing a third cycle. Well its up to you. Dosage is good imo, but i would have just a bit more test then deca.....

And add some nolvadex and HCG for PCT. Maybe even some arimidex if you want a lean look.

[lovbyts]

well im just asking tmos? I trust you man. your advice is golden and i will follow it. I know and im always working on diet no diet is perfect and anything can always be better. This why i keep coming back so i can better myself!! any more advice

Bull $h*t
He said you are to young, that means DONT do it but you are still pushing to do it. you respect only someone who agrees with you or tells you what you want to hear.

What, you want to hear that since you already where a dumb f*ck at 19 you might as well continue now?

Hmm 3 bad cycles so doing a good one now will fix everything??? Have fun when in another 10 yrs or less you are on dialysis or have all kinds of other problems you cant figure out WHY???

I hope a couple years of being lean and mean is worth a lifetime of misery to you.

[T-MOS]

I havr amplule amount of gear but i figure with 2 compounds you dont have to do a high dosage in order to get gains.

thats the smartest thing you have ever said !!!! gains are dependent on your diet MORE than gear

[T-MOS]

Bull $h*t
He said you are to young, that means DONT do it but you are still pushing to do it. you respect only someone who agrees with you or tells you what you want to hear.

What, you want to hear that since you already where a dumb f*ck at 19 you might as well continue now?

Hmm 3 bad cycles so doing a good one now will fix everything??? Have fun when in another 10 yrs or less you are on dialysis or have all kinds of other problems you cant figure out WHY???

I hope a couple years of being lean and mean is worth a lifetime of misery to you.

Yea, i figured I was wasting my breath since he already did 3 cycles and the damage is done..... he was gonna do it anyway........

[Navy-boi-kai]

why you two always fuss at me? not so much tmos but lovbyts you seem to always get so hot headed with someone. No im said nothing is set in STONE, which mean It was a thought. I want to be well informed OK!!

[Navy-boi-kai]

also this will be my 3rd cycle if i choose to. See my first one which i really dont count was just deca. My first actaul good cylce i did last year which was test and deca.

[Navy-boi-kai]

see some people on here say to do it some dont? why is is they say to?

[T-MOS]

see some people on here say to do it some dont? why is is they say to?

because like I said, you did 3 already, any damage you may have done to your growth plates and HPTA system is already done

IF you were a 20 year old that has never cycled, I would be adamant that you NOT do it for a few more years

[lovbyts]

My point is HOPEFULLY the damage is NOT 100% but by doing another cycle at your age might be the final straw and it might be sooner than later that you have complications.

I dont care if you get pissed at me if it makes you wait even another year and saves your kidneys or liver.

What you did already was BAD at your age and not GOOD at any age. Deca only?? OMG LOL

Some say do it because they know you probably are going to do what YOU want and not listen, just like when you where 19 or your last 3 cycle
They will try to give you the best advice under the circumstances but that does not mean they think you SHOULD be doing a cycle or another one yet.

[Navy-boi-kai]

i thank you guys ima hold off on it.